Follow up delay anxiety

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Hi all 

I am in the same position as a lot of us, my surgery has been put back. 

background, I had a TURBT at the end of Jan and was found to have a g2pTa. as I was a breastfeeding and the tumour looked small, no mytomycin was given at the time. 

In one of the shots from the surgery I queried a shadow in the background with my surgeon as it really looked like a distinct second tumour. The response back wasn’t quite as comforting as I would have liked, so I ended up swapping doctors. 

the new surgeon did another flexible cystoscopy and said whilst he was happy that there was no second tumour, he was concerned I was getting a recurrence around the original tumour site. I had a date booked for a second TURBT for 23 March, which as we will know now was lockdown day and my surgery was cancelled 3 days before and postponed indefinitely. 

I was told that I am low risk so it’s fine to wait to do the surgery until summer even when things may have settled down and that I should get back in touch if I have any symptoms etc. 

well the paranoid person in me purchased some urine dip sticks to check for blood etc because I never had symptoms when I was diagnosed with bladder cancer the first time so wanted something to see / know if there were any problems that I couldn’t see. 

cut to two days ago - I finally feel that I had full and comfortable bladder control again after the rigid and flexible cystoscopy, I thought just to be on the safe side, let me take the at home dip stick urine test. That is showing trace amounts of blood in my urine. I’ve checked 3 times now on 2 different batches of dip stick (all amazon bought mind you) and all show trace blood in the urine.

is this normal or should I be more concerned? My last procedure was 26 Feb so I thought I would be completely recovered from any post procedure bleeding so it shouldn’t be that.

I called my GP and couldn’t get my usual lovely doctor, got another one who I had to convince very hard to let me do a full urine test with them tomorrow. Hopefully that will be more accurate than a self bought dip stick.  

I am now worried I definitely do have a recurrence and there is no “plan” on how to fix it due to covid. I’m literally having panic attacks at night about this. I have two young kids and I’m struggling with staying positive at the moment because it’s all getting too much and getting me down. 

just needed to share with a group that gets it / has the possibility of putting my worries in context. I’m still in the early stages of my emotional journey with cancer. My current  flawed logic is still based on historic outcomes of “C word = death” and not “bladder cancer is manageable with routine appointments”

 

  • Hi . I think many on here will share your anxieties with the delays in treatment. It is always worrying when there are traces of blood and difficult to get answers. There is always a possibility it could be an infection, and if you can manage to get a surgery urine test done, it will give you some ideas. We really do not know how things are going to pan out, but I was told they are trying to open up some clinics soon. I hope they can get you in somewhere. Best wishes.

    Best wishes to All,   rily.

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  • Hi Ripon 35, totally get the pressure you are under. Already half asleep myself but just want you have a couple of replies for some comfort. Rily is so good, always on it. Could you try one of those free calm YouTube soundtracks to help you sleep better, leaving your phone well away from the bed [as the radiation isn't healthy to have less than a metre from you]. They've been a big help to my anxious husband.

    The other thing I have time to type now, is he was G3 pta around ten years after what we now know was a TURBT f multiple growths, but he wasn't told it was cancer and there was no, repeat no, follow up of it. So only got that diagnosis after moving 120 miles and getting 'old man getting up in the night' symptoms. But now despite recurrences he's clear with 6 months to next check. So your grade and staging should hopefully not be too awful but whatever happens we are all here for you.

    Night night

    Denby

  • Hi Ripon35, totally understand your anxiety. I'm an old hand 3 years down the road since diagnosis and my cystoscopy in March was also cancelled, plus my April BCG maintenance doses. I have had two reoccurrences in past 2 years so naturally wondering if I have more tumours growing. But just to reassure you I had my initial tumour for three years before my (previous!) GP referred me to Urology, and though tumour was huge and Grade 2 T1 I am still here to tell the tale. It is frightening to get the C-word diagnosis but it doesn't need to mean the worst so do try to take life one step at a time and enjoy those gorgeous children in the sunshine. xxx

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    Thank you all - truly. It is reassuring to read other people’s experiences.

    it did take approx 1 year for my old tumour to grow, so a few more months delay in checking for a new one shouldn’t be a problem. 

    the rational side of my brain knows this - but as we all know, sometimes the rational goes for a holiday and the emotional side has a bit of a field day. 

  • We all absolutely do know those emotional panics. And not unreasonable for us to feel panic either. Difficult at the moment to know which looming danger to panic about first! Think I'll go out and plant out a few beans in the sunshine. I find getting my hands in the earth helps me. xxx

  • Hi Ripon35, just to add last year I had microscopic blood in my wee that was found for a different matter, I had antibiotics that didn’t shift it so they brought my cystoscope forward and that was all clear, I had a CT scan to make sure it wasn’t my kidneys that was all clear, I was told people can and do just have microscope blood for no reason although I can’t remember having it before, I’m grade 3 pta, cancelled cystoscope this month but been clear for 7 years. Good luck and hope it’s nothing x

    Sue Xx
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    FormerMember in reply to sueCC

    Thank you SueCC - that is incredibly helpful to know!!!

    I too have just a trace amount, so I’m hoping it’s nothing but would just prefer to get it checked out. 

    Hope you get your revised cystoscope date soon too 

    xx

  • I'm a male and can relate to sueCC's post. I have a review and too worried but many in the same boat. ATB

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    FormerMember

    Hi Ripon

    I feel your anxiety and hope you feel a little less anxious after getting support from members here. I remember those times in the initial first years when I didn’t know what “beast” I was dealing with. It turned out to be a very indolent slow growing one - 16 years later it is only a nuisance. I only had mytomycin once when the original tumour was removed. Since small reoccurrences are taken out by TURB.

    So hopefully if they said you are small risk it won’t make too much difference to wait until the worst of the covid pandemic is over. 

    I am a mummy too to a young one :-)

    Here to support you and give you hope if I can.

    Be well :-)

    Catarina