Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • Andrew, your thread is one that, with the experience Caz had, meant so much to me when you started it.....my p/m told you all, I guess....

    Moomy

  • FormerMember
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    Andy I'm blushing now,

    I haven't posted much to you, to warrent the thanks so have you been sneaking around???????????
  • FormerMember
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    Hi Juls,.

    I read your posts as well, I alwyas find something in them to bolster myself during the day and take heart from what you have to say.

    My great friends are not trying to "get away" or "withdraw" they just are finding it hard to do the rioght thing and I wanted them to know that there is no such thing as "the right thing" just to carry on beiung my friends but to make sure that it doesn't hurt them along the way. I don't know if that says what i wanted it to but therein lies te problem - its not easy to communicate feelinmgs all the time and they need my help and the help of each other as much as I need theirs.

    Thanks for your kind words they mean alot to me.

    Andrew
    xx
  • FormerMember
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    Juls,

    I supppose it could be "sneaking around" - lol - I prefer to call it "investigative reading" 0 another lol -

    Perhaps we should speak more often then?

    Cheers again

    Andrew
    xx
  • FormerMember
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    awww shucks Andy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I never intend to 'say' anything specific, just what comes into my head, it has never been preplanned or intending to be anything other than just my thoughts.
    I will say thought I have really struggled to find the balance between how I feel and how I think I aught to behave and how my husband wants me to be with the added dimension of how the outside expects us to be!!!!!!!!!!!!
    so I can relate to how your friends feel, in some ways the easiest option is to be as as they are being, now that doesn't make a scrap of sense at all------------------!
  • FormerMember
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    juls,

    makes perfect sense to me!

    An open string of thoughts often outguns something planned and thought about, the honesty cannot help shining through.

    Thanks
    Andrew
    xx
  • FormerMember
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    Happy to chat whenever!
    Sneaking is actually quite fun, I think I spend too much time with a 5 year old!!!
    'Investigative research and study' does have a more adult ring to it and does validate sneaking so yeah why not?!?!

    BTW
    your 3.00pm Friday Dance sesion means I am certifiable in front of my students!!!!! So I will be with you in mind only as I need to maintain an aura of professionalism!
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    Get the students to join in dancing in their heads to their music - tell 'em its a new form of private mental expression - see what happens - lol - could be fun!! (or no and then all that happens is you get "certified" as mad!!!!!!)

    Andrew
    xx
  • FormerMember
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    The friday afternoon shift is dire at getting ANY sense, so I will forego that one if you don't mind!!!!!!
    Although in principle it does carry some merits! mmm? naw p'haps not!
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    I thought it was worth a try - lol - my sister refused to try it with her pupils as well and they are 10-11 year olds so would have been easiewr to comtrol, but she tells me I am wrong. Ah well, we shall alls tick to it anyway and like i say, if you can't dance out loud you can always dance in your head!

    Andrew
    xx