Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
    FormerMember
    I must get back to marking and constructing clear, helpful and supportive remarks for assignments when the reality of what I actually would like to say is nearer to "just what county were YOU in when I set this???????" (polite version).

    Just a lovely way to spend a sunny bank holiday saturday!
  • Juls, just an idea, leave them with that idea at the end of your session, and then tell them it is a form of psychological therapy??????

    Moomy

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    Andy
    My students are adults and so will let me know exactly the course of their thinking!
    Helen
    Love that idea, now just how could I refigure that into the role of the teaching assistant?

    I'm the one needing therapy!!!!!!!!
  • FormerMember
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    You Tube is up and working again - i am listening to this old disco song and it makes me feel like dancing all over again!!

    Juls - best of luck!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBRnzIJbPrU&feature=related

    enjoy if you like it,

    Andrew
    xx

  • FormerMember
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    Disco was always my pet hate - but maybe I'm mellowing with age.
  • FormerMember
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    This ones a better song and her voice is better on it!

    better everything,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSCBqoheQN8&feature=related



    Just edited that post as I dodn't notice it cut off half way through - maybe this one is better

    we shall see

    Andrew



  • FormerMember
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    Yes that's a nice piece of music. Shame its ruined by a DISCO beat. (lol)
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    I give up, they are all cuttoing out onm my laptop -

    Liz - i love that Aretha Song, its almost musci perfection,



    Chrisitine,



    give us a track to listen to for you



    Andrew

    xx

  • FormerMember
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    here is another fave of mine, this is from an old album where Al Green was changing from pop to gospel music and you can hear it in the lyrics.

    then there is a note near the end where his voice does something magical and lamost becomes an instrument in its own right - amazing!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wIGjzrWOOk

    try and see if you fel the same as me!

    Andrew
    xx
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    hi andrew , how about bread and the track 'if'..........something to mellow your mood and chill by ............not that my fella needs it he is snoring away 'watching' football !!!!...........i have even hoovered around him and he didnt move !!!!! i even sat the cat on him and he just snorted and turned over !!!!!...............i am on a mission now to do something naughty , as because it is humid here and i have worked my little socks off , it is 'annoying' me that he is prostrate and oblivious to everything !!!!!!!!!...grrrrrrrrrr

    .................done it !!!!..........nicked his chocolate whilst he is asleep , yum yum .........i will say i threw it away by accident whilst i was hard at work !!!!!!
    it threw its way towards my mouth !!!!!



    on a more serious note im off to see my friend in a few hours , so will bear all the advice offered here today by others ..........and be normal and myself and make her laugh with my shenagins !!!!

    suexxxxxxxxx