Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.
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Hello everyone,
this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.
I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.
There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.
Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.
First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,
I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).
Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.
Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;
- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?
Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.
Cheers
Andrew
Hi sarahnicole,
no you are not being harsh at all, I probably know the answers anyway but not enough to form them into anything useful to me at this time. I am sure you are right in what you say and they will all be there whenever I need them but the "am I a user" question always crops up somehow.
I just read your post about your dad and smoking so please don't hate me but the first thing I did when I got the news was get a cigarette out and smoke it in the hospital car park!! and I thought to myself then "just how stupid was that?". I do try to stop each day though and it is getting easier to cut down so I am sure your Dad really feels silly inside when he lights up but I don't think at all that he is saying "right, thats it, my life is over may as well smoke now", I think its just an automatic response and a crutch that can be used immediately.
Thanks for your thoughts and best wishes to both you and your Dad.
Andrew
Moomy
Moomy,
thanks very much - I suppose I have a journey of my own to on here and things will change as they are wont to do without me being able to do anything about it at all.
I do trust my friends implicitly but there is always that nagging set of doubts to conquer on top of the cancer. I know that with renal cancer I will never have remission or cure and that it is just a matter of how much time left and what I do with it and I think that this was the area preying on my mind. My only remaining family is my sister and she has a life of her own to live and has never really been part of this group of mine but she is trying very hard to fit in with them now and doing well in that endevour, bless her!
How do you keep people "with you" when most of the future news is not going to be all that positive? Everyone always wants a step forward and mostly I have been unable to provide that, more like two steps back. Now I am starting to sound like some form of depressive and don't mean to but it just happens!!
Anyway, many thanks for your post, I am really really happy that your daughter has manager through this and you seem to be as well, it means a great deal to me that people I do not know at all are prepared to read my thoughts and respond to them, it restores my faith in people every time I see and read it here.
Thanks very much again and have a good Sunday,
Andrew
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