Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi Liz

    Good luck with your journey today.  I know it will be of enormous help and inspiration to you.  I have the CD of the Journey and found it very interesting.  Unfortunately it does say that you are suppossed to have read the book before listening to the CD. But, me being me, had to do things the wrong way round.

    I'm going to make some tomatoe and sweet pepper chutney today to try and use the glut of tomatoes and peppers i've grown.  Never made it before so will probably end up a disaster........but never mind, at least I would have had the entertainment value out of making it.......I Hope!.....lol.

    Best go now as I'm sat eating a bag of VERY HOT  Chevda (like a Bombay Mix) and its burning my mouth.........................AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

    Love to you and all on site.

    Christine

    xxxx

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi Christine

    well what a day my session this week was awful i ended up getting a block during the session

    but did not know what was blocking my thoughts it was very emotional so i,m feeling that i have let

    Nigel down he told me at the end of the session to try and write a letter to my self about  how i was feeling after. He also told me to put it on my mirror so that i can read it to myself everyday to try and figure out what was blocking my thoughts. Well Christine can i ask you how you feel about the journey and weather it has done you any good i found it helped the pain in my shoulder and i have found that i can move the shoulder a bit higher. well enough of that i hope that your chukney turned out ok .and i hope that you have had a good day

    mu ch love to you and everyone else-  liz xxxxxxxx

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Good morning to you all

    well the weather here is cloudy  nothing planned for today i was hoping to go to the gym today but my dad has decided to visit my gran so i cant get there. Well i do hope you all have a nice day

    must go liz xxxxx

  • Morning, all of you, hope that this cloudy dull day is ok for you......my plans for today, to get the house cleaned, and make some nice tasty food for Caz who will be with us for a few days working in London and Bournemouth.

    love and hugs to you all

    Moomy

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to moomy

    Good Morning Everyone.

    I hope everyone will have a good day today.  Helen, I hope your cooking goes well and you make something lovely for Caz.

    Liz:, dont worry about your emotional/mental blockage yesterday.  I can assure you that you have not let Nigel down, in fact your blockage was probably proof that the whole journey is working for you. It is probably good that you've found this blockage as it give you the extra time you need to investigate it and work through it.

    As I said before......I did listen to the CD about the Journey.  It was a sit of 3 CD's. The first was an introduction and gave a very nice meditation that I still find helpful today.  The second CD was covering the Emotional Journey, the one about dropping down through your emotional layers to help resolve any past negative experiences that my still be affecting you today.  This I found Brillant and I still use this technique now.

    The third CD which covers the Physical Journey, I have not listened to yet............Dont know why.  I suppose I felt that I because of my Reiki experience, I did not yet need any other help. 

    I thank you for bring up the subject of the Journey because I had totally forgotten that I had not listened to the Physical Journey CD.  This must be a sign that I now need to do this, which I will do asap.

    Weather here is dull, drizzly and I have been listening to Radio 5 Live which is about people who have lost children to Cancer.  Its very emotional and humbling and my heart goes out to all family members who have lived or are living in this nightmare.

    My love and support goes to you all.

    Christine

    xx

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Just also wanted to say:

    Sorry for any spelling mistakes but I cant find a way of going back into my posts to edit out the errors.

    Also, I did finish making my Tomatoe Chutney yesterday.  I'll blow my own trumpet and say it smelled and looked  wonderful.  Unfortunately I have to leave it for at least a month to mature before I can find out if it tastes and looks as good it looks and smells.

    XX

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Thank-you Christine that has made me feel better. The other thing i wanted to ask you was that Nigel asked me to write a letter to myself about how i felt after the journey which i did do you think i should give Nigel a copy of the letter so that he i a where of what could be stopping me going further or coursing this blockage. we went and spoke about the cancer as that is one of my werst fears but when we went there that was when i got the block but when i spoke to my friend  after about it she said no wonder i got a block because we were looking for the cancer but the cancer is now gone and  thats why i could not see anything. well Helen i do hope you have a nice few days with caz plus i hope everyone else has a nice day to

    much love liz xxx

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    A very deep problem Liz.   I think you friend must be a very wise person as she's right, you are looking for something that is no longer there.

    I think, it depends on how far back you were when you tried to face your cancer.  If you were looking at it from this moment in time then yes, you friend is right, there is no Cancer there to confront......it is past and gone.   If however you were taking yourself back to the time of your diagnoses, a time when you thought your Cancer had the upper hand, then you were directly trying to face your worst nightmare........no wonder you were in fear of carrying on.

    You must take yourself back to the time and the person you were that moment when the news was broken to you.  Face it again, but this time, take with you the person you are today.  That person can help and support you because they (the person you are today)  know that today you have beaten it. 

    This might help you to briefly relive this moment differently to the first time.  See youself smiling at the consultant and saying  " It OK", "I trust you and I trust my own body" and  "I know that I will win and have a bright and happy future"  Then walk out of that consulting room and feel yourself dropping through that emotional level knowing that you have resolved it and are in total control.  Feel the weight lift from your whole body and move on to the next level.

    I know you'll get there!  keep up the good work.

    Christine#

    xx

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi Christine

    Well i just thought i would than-you for your advice i have taken it and i have sent nigel my letter would be ok if i sent it to you and you can tell me what you think well i must admit i,m feeling a bit better now

     

    much love and big hugs liz xxxxx

     

  • Just thought I'd post to you about editing, you can do this by clicking on 'more' which gives you a few options, one is editing

    Caz isn't yet here and the cooking will probably be just making her tasty meals, she loves pasta!

    love and hugs to all

    Moomy