Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to moomy

    Hi Helen,

    My drop down menu under 'More' does not seem to be working.  Maybe its a bit like me and takes time to get going.....lol.

    Have a good evening.

    Christine

    x

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi Everyone, just popped in to say hello and have been reading your posts which are very interesting. I know I have'nt post much on here lately but due to facters beyond my control (cancer ! ) it has been difficult to keep concentration for long periods of time, I find things take me so long to post I think is it worth it.  ButI just wanted to let you know I have'nt forgotten you and especially liz.

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Good morning to you all

    and i hope you all have a great day and i just wanted to say

    Hi John i know you wouldn't forget me its nice to see you posting ,i do miss you but i do understand and you are always in my thoughts . Christine thank-you once again for you e-mail it has helped me to understand it a bit more i will send you an e-mail to explain it a bit more. Helen i hope you have a nice time with Caz when she arrives.

    much love to you all

    liz xxxxxx

    p.s helen would you know how  i would go about starting a new thread  as i seem to have lost mine

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Morning, Liz

    bright and sunny here - hope it's the same with you

    friday tomorrow - yippee, can 't come soon enough!

    Hope you have a agood day.

    Sue x

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Morning Sue

    its bright and sunny here to i think its going to be a very nice day today

    I've not got much planned for today i,m of to the cemetery today a friend so she can visit her husband

    well have a nice day

    much love and big hugs Liz xx xx 

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Good Morning everyone

    Lazy me is still in bed as the weather is very foggy and cold.....yuck!  I will be hauling my arse out in a few minutes as I've lots to get done today.

    Liz and Susan, Helen, Dianne and everyone, I hope you both have a pleasant and relaxing day.

    Jonnie, I think of you often too, so its always a good day when we see you posting because we know your having one of your stronger days........long may they last.  Dont forget to save some energy to post your song  tomorrow.

    I'm going to Kings Lynn tomorrow to visit my sister, plus I want to visit the National Trust Salt Marshes in the Norfolk area because my husband brought me a new camera yesterday. Its got a really good zoom on it, so I'm looking forward to trying it out and doing a bit of bird/wildlife watching.

    Talking of wildlife.  We (thats the royal 'we') have decided that we dont wont to stay in the traditional hotel so I've booked a room in Weatherspoons in Kings Lynn.  Just thought it would be a bit more entertaining.  Will I still be saying that at 2am when I'm complaining about the noise from the bar?  No, I probably be saying "Oh Well, if you cant beat um, join um".........lol.

    As i may not be able to post tomorrow morning, I would like to post my tune for tomorrows 'Dance the Crap out of Cancer'.  My song is going to be 'Hole in the World' by the Eagles.  I will probably be in the car on the way to Kings Lynn at 3pm but I will be singing and swaying, and I just know that the emotion will be very very strong and I doubt if I will be able to stop the tears.  Of Course I will be singing for our Andrew who was taken from us one year ago (27th September 2008)

    I wont be home on Sunday but I will be raising a glass to Andrew and thanking god for sending such a lovely human being into our lives.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdvOTR2-at0

     

    Christine

    xxxx

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Dear Liz

    To start your own subject go to your home page click on forums,click  write new post  then you see a list as to what you want to put your subject under,then click on it then you see subject  write the title of your forum in there then  post as normal. It should work. Best of luck,let me know if it works.

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Thank-you john for that i,m now up and running with my  thread what makes you smile i,m so pleased

     

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Don't know if this the right thing to do, but here's hoping this appears on Andrew's thread. if it ends up somewhere else, I'd appreciate someone re-directing it, ... or me! I'm Andrew's sister, Anne. I wanted to post something here to thank everyone who has ever contributed to the thread. To me, its like a little bit of him carrying on and it means such a lot to imagine people Dancing the C**P out of Cancer every Friday. Can't do it often myself. Surrounded by 300 children exiting school ... rapidly. But during the holidays I almost always join in.

    When he started this thread, I didn't read it at all. I figured he needed a place to air his thoughts away from the friends and family. He said I could, but I didn't. He did get so much comfort and distraction from talking to everyone that I could leave him in all your capable hands with slightly less worry and guilt, and for that alone I owe you all so much gratitude.

    About two months after his death, I decided to try and read the thread. I started, but could hear him speaking the words. Very upsetting! So I left it a while. Now I've read the bulk of it, and have found keeping up with everyone's lives very comforting. It's good to know he's thought about sometimes.

    On Sunday, one year to the day he died, the aforementioned friends and family will be meeting to mark his passing. I don't know that he ever resolved his initial question, and maybe that didn't matter in the end. All I do know is that everyone who helps you, even a little way, along the road is important. Whether they're 'enough' or not is really only for you to decide.

    Sorry for going on a bit. Family tendency we both denied!

    Thanks again,

    Anne.x

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi Anne its nice to see you posting it does mean alot  to everyone on here and Andrew is still very much missed i am still doing the dance the crap out of cancer as i know Andrews wish was to have the whole of the Macmillan's site do the dance on Friday and i hope to achieve this one day well my song will be dedicated to Andrew in his memory

     

    much love to you and your family liz xxxxx