Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
    FormerMember
    morning juls,
    my kids are all grown up now but remember school run,
    how are you today?
    dianne xx
  • FormerMember
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    Feeling glad to be me!!
    I think this means that I'm feeling well, not much pain today, just very achy legs - but I can put up with that very easily.
    I've just had a new meditation CD come in the post, so when I'm dressed, Im going to sit in the garden and give it a go. Then, if a miricle happens, I might do some ironing - dont hold your breathe thought.
    Ironing . Aaaarrrrrrhhhhhhgg. what a horrid picture. ROTFL
  • FormerMember
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    meditation in the garden sounds lovely, i hate ironing so i
    think you should forget about that just enjoy the sunshine,
    dianne xx
  • FormerMember
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    Hi Dianesylvia

    I am OK, The school run is grandson! He lives with us and so despite my swearing I would never do school runs again when ours were old enough to get themselves there and back in one piece I'm back with this chore.

    Don't get me wrong love him to bits, I just DON'T do mornings and battling to get a 5yr old out and fighting traffic is NOT my ideal way to start the day off! hehehe not really ranting just can think of millions of things I would rather do.

    How are you and Christine,
    please forgive my senior moments (and recovery from traffic exposure) I don't think we have chatted before, have we?

  • FormerMember
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    You enjoy your day too Dianne.
    Speak to you later.

    Luv

    Christine

  • FormerMember
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    I agree Ironing is the pits,

    Iron it, put it on and it immediately is creased! Waste of a glorious day!!!
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    yes we have chatted before, somewhere, cant remember
    which thread though, i had my 9yr old grandson here for
    the weekend, wore me out, whatever i suggested doing
    was boring, anything without a screen, keyboard or controllers
    is boring,
    dianne xx
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    My PC just locked I was sitting here thinking everyone has disappeared from all of mac to realise it had just siezed up, bit like me hehehehe!
    I thought we had but can't remember oh well.

    At least at 5 I can still bully him into eciting activities well he bullys me in reality!!!
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    II always feel when they get to the I'm bored and it's boring stage they are best off some place else!!!
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    Yer, your right Juls. Maybe I'll give it a miss today.
    No we haven't spoken before, but I've read some of your posts to Andrew (forgive the eavesdropping). Wonderful to hear that your hubby has been able to start getting back into work, it must be a great feeling for him. And, I'm really looking forward to reading your holiday adventures, I get great enjoyment from reading about everyones adventures/holidays - so I'm really looking forward to yours.

    I hope you are well this morning.
    Enjoy the sun!!!
    Luv
    Christine.

    I really wish I could find someone to do the ironing for me. I've tried looking in the local papers and on line, but we must all be lazy sods down here, nobody wants to work. (lol)