Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    My eyes are closing whilst standing up now - I think that means I am a bit knackered - so just waiting for the dishwasher to stop and do tomorrows pills into the organiser then I am off to bed.

    That'll be the first time in ages that I am actually sleep bound before the early hours of the morning!

    Sorry, nothing to do with the interestingness of any of the posts or stuff - just absolutely bushed from my days exertions.

    So just time to say goodnight to everyone on here befors I completely fall asleep face down onto the laptop key board.

    So g'night and sweet dreams to all here from me.

    Andrew
    xx

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    sleep well!!!!

    I hope tomorrow brings you more fun drives!!!!!!

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    Juls,

    see, before i go i had to respond to that one - absolutely fabulous - i am very jealous now, what a completely brilliant thing to do.

    I hope that it is the dream you can have that gets real - i am lost for words and that never happens!

    Great!!!!

    Fnatastic !!!

    very other brillaint epithet i can think of.

    Andrew
    xx

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    i literally just went to sleep standing up then - cows do that for goodness sake - so now am off to bed for real.

    Night to anyone still up and catch up with you all in the morning!

    Andrew
    xx
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    Andy at the risk of sounding arrogant this dream just HAS to happen!! There is no fail option on this one!!

    We know what we are doing and have sailing experience and Richard has gained Off shore sailing certs and now only needs nautical miles for yachtmaster so I am happy about that.

    We know we cannot spend all summer there, so will be buying a third share in a very nice 2 yr old cruiser moored just off Athens so we can access the southern coast and pelopenese islands also for longer stretches up to the Ionians.

    We have already spoken to the family / syndicate selling their share and they have us as preferred purchasers.
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    Andy
    Cows and Horses can both sleep standing up, the difference is they can lock their hock and stifle joints thus ensuring vertical position. We just fall over!!! hehehehe
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    morning all,
    really quiet on here today, is anyone about?
    dianne xx
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    Hi dianne.
    Goodmorning to you.
    Yes, I'm here, but should'nt be really. I'm still in my dressing gown, looking out at the beautiful sunshine, and thinking, I really should get showered, dressed, and GET OUT THERE!!!!.
    I hope your well?
    Luv
    Christine
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    morning christine,
    lovely and sunny here as well, i have only just got dressed
    as well, havent been on much lately, how are you feeling today?
    dianne xx
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    Morning all

    I wish I could say I was still in dressing gown!!! hehehe , not long back from the dreaded school run!