Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • Knowing your predelictions, has to be ice cream, lol!

    Moomy

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    Hi Andy
    Great news unaccompanied drives - whooopp wwhhooppp!

    I think you more than deserve the Curry to celeebrate but with err garlic oat meal cakes?!?! Please do remind me never to come to Dinner - sorry what was that .... no invite coming my way anyway? humphf! lol lol

    Enjoy the choloate ice cream ! You deserve that as well!

    Julia
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    Hi Helen and Juls,

    well what can I say, didn't go exactly accoring to plan there on the old pudding front. My bod decided to fall asleep instead. So just woken up about a half hour ago and had to go through the usual morning routine at this time of night. In other words; stretching and excercising enough to enable me to get up off the sofa! Never easy is it? and I'll have to go through it all again in about 9 hours!!

    Ah well, if all else fails there is Diazepam to fall back on!

    I've read through my latest Merc Magazine and can't help wondering whether or not I should shell oy £50,000 on getting a new car - only joking really but I can't help wanting one - lol. In any case it wouldn't go any faster will it! (Actually it would - but not by that much).

    And Juls, yea the garlic oat meal cakes were a bit - eeuww - but needs must when completing a curry mop up excercise, you just can't leave the lovely saucy bits can you?

    So, there I was wondering why I couldn't see and is this another symptom of my cancer, then I realised that it was because my glass had fallen off. I tried my very best to read your posts (even lifted the lap top closer to my eyes) until it bacame slightly obvious that its easier to find my specs! Sometimes I can be a bit stupid I think!

    Ok, now not very tired either but feel its necessary to go to bed at a reallistic time so that tomorrow won't be a wash out. I'll give it another hour or so and then pack up, tomorrows pills intro their little box and check through the kitchen pharmacy to see if anything needs ordering. That sounds really fun doesn't it, what an exciting life I lead?

    So anything exciting going on in anyone else's world?

    Cheers

    Andrew

    xx



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    Certainly not here. Everything is dead boring here is sleepy Somerset.
    Unless playing cards by myself has suddenly become the in thing in extreme sports.
    So, I'll let you get to bed Andrew, and speak in the morning, I hope.
    Good Night
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    I think you should go for the Merc as I couldn't get hubby to shell out for one, at least I can say I helped persuade you to upgrade yours!

    When he came out of hospital I persuaded him it was high time to get a newer car, I even managed to get him into the Merc show room and SEATED in a very nice dark blue one!! would he agree??? not on your nelly! Despite insurance check that would more than pay for it! Did I sulk - YOU BET! Me being half German I certainly did!!
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    So Christine,

    its Andy Williams time - lol -

    and solitaire's the only game in town"
    .......etc

    not tired now (he said in sulky teenage voice) - Richard had also taken to calling me "Meldrew" since yesterday - can't think why - I am sure that am more of a "Kevin".

    If all that means nothing to you then I'm wasting the comedy show repeats I'm watching - lol

    Andrew
    xx
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    Juls,

    the only problem being is that I just spent £40,000 on one as a Christmas present from me to me so its seemed a bit extravagant spending a load more money just three months later!! I think a bit more cogitating time is required.

    But you can tell your hubby from me - if you haven't bought one in the last few months then its high timew you did!! (that was all said in my best and most strict language with no lols and jokes).

    Andrew
    XX



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    Juls,

    the only problem being is that I just spent £40,000 on one as a Christmas present from me to me so its seemed a bit extravagant spending a load more money just three months later!! I think a bit more cogitating time is required.

    But you can tell your hubby from me - if you haven't bought one in the last few months then its high timew you did!! (that was all said in my best and most strict language with no lols and jokes).

    Andrew
    XX



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    I got it, so not entirely wasted !
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    apparantly so good I said it twice - lol!!