Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    i am good today thank you, hope the day so far has been kind to you. xxx
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    i didnt have a very good start and was rather tearful this morning but am getting better as the day has gone on. xx hope the lymphdrainage wasnt too painful. xx
    Julia.xxx
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    thanks hun that means a lot, I do kinda feel a bit selfish tho when people on here are battlin the horrid C, whereas in my case it is my mum and I still cant seem to keep myself together. I think I would cope better if it was me that was battlin. xxx hope that doesnt sound too self pitying!!! . xx and like wise i will request you as a friend and if you need a shoulder. xxx
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    Christine,

    I am not sure what that post was - i am not sure it was even me that wrote it or it could have been the end of a morphine trip - lol - who knows?

    Anyway - if you could all see the big grin that I have from one side of my face to the other - I have had two outings driving solo in my car today and just got nack from the last one.

    The sun has been shining all day and I have used half a tank of fuel just meandering around tha country lanes enjoying the sound of the engine and the feel of the sun on my face and the wind through whats left of my hair!!

    Whatever I did when I fell over yesterday has worked in my favour today. Its been absolutley brilliant and I can't describe just how good I feel right now. I even went to the supermarket unaided and did some shopping. All of these may sound everage and dull but I've been couped up here for 2 months unable to do anything for myself and today I can again - freedom, freedom, freedom, its great!

    So tonight I am celebrating with a curry to top it off.

    So there we are, I am happy happy happy, what have you lot being doing in my absence?

    Cheers

    Andrew
    xx

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    Cheers Liz,

    I hope that you are doing well too and that the lymph darining has gone ok and not taken too much out of you.

    have a good one,

    Faint NOT Liz after Lymph draining - lol

    Andrew
    xx
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    way to go Andrew, hope the good feeling lasts a good long while. Julia.xxx
  • Andrew, just saw your post, brilliant news, driving again must feel SO good, know it means lots to you.....and pleased you didn't do permanent damage in your trip over the kerb....

    Moomy

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    Hi Andrew,
    Wow! - wish I had morphine trips like that, it sounded very covert and exciting. Mine just alters my mood, usually for the worst, and I throw tantrums. Not very nice to see.

    I'm so glad your happy, happy, happy. Sounds like you've had another successful day. is'nt it a wonderful feeling just knowing you have some independence, even if its just to do your own shopping. I fully understand how great it makes you feel. I feel that way when I go out during the day - even though I suffer for it in the evening.

    I went to the May Fair. Just a few stalls, most were charity fund raising stalls, and a brass band entertaining the public - nothing to exciting. Managed to stroll about and bumped into people I haven't seen in a while. Its quite nice when I'm chatting to someone who doesn't know I'm ill, because they treat you normally, and can have a chat and a laugh without them feeling awkward.

    I hope you have a nice restful evening and enjoy your curry. I dont know what to have for dinner, will probably end up with a vegetable spag bol, same as yesterday.

    Luv and Hugs Drinking Red Wine Cheers!
    Christine



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    Hi Liz.
    Glad the Lympdrainage went well and I hope it has made you feel more comfortable getting rid of the unwanted fluid. I remember having it done a couple of times, and it really helped me. Are you doing anything exciting this evening, or just relaxing at home?

    Whatever you do, have a good evening.
    Luv and Hugs Bubbles
    Christine
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    Hi Helen,

    yes it looks as though the kerb trip was a good thing rather than a bad one, for a change, although it did seem to worry Richard and Anne at the time, Richard thought he'd cllipped with with the wing mirror when I wnet down. I was more worried about my ankle as I thought that I had turned it over. I kind of "folded" down on my crutch which helped I think. Anyuway its turned out ok for the moment. I think I will also probably suffer a bit tomorrow with my back due to the additional getting in and out of the car I've done today, but even if I do it has been worth it, to me anyway.

    Julia,

    thanks very much for for best wishes and, albeit my above comments, I hope so too!!

    Liz and Christine,

    I have just enjoyed my Chicken Karahi, unfortunately I forgot to buy a Nan bread so have had to make do with a hastily galricked and toasted oatmeal tea cake. Well what can say about my take on traditional Indian cookery - non existant - lol - but at least the curry was a good one. And, before you ask, no, I didn't make it myself it was a bought one.

    But I have promised to make a curry this week for my friends at the weekend, so by dint of cooking/marinating/re-heating it should be in good shape for friday night.

    Right now the only decision I have to make is - whats fo pudding?

    Cheers

    Eating Pie


    Andrew
    xx