Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
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    Sorry to butt in but just had to say that ABC the group the lead singer Martin Fry has the same cancer as myself Follicular NHL and has been living with it for over 9 years. :) Just had to put that as you were discussing the 80's and mentioned ABC. xxxxxxxx
  • FormerMember
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    Hi Sarah,

    you're not butting in at all, nice to see you again.

    How are things going and how are you feeling today.

    Any requests - lol - and betty and I will try to provide!

    Andrew
    xx
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    I am not feeling too bad, been bit sicky last few days but feeling bit better. I am enjoying peace and quiet reading through loads of the threads. I am meeting a friend soon though and he is cooking me lunch although sometimes I wish peeps would not want to see me! I just get fed up with all the phone calls and visitors sometimes!!!! Never mind I am smiling and will just play the ole cancer card and see what I can get this afternoon :) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    I loved the 80's best music ever!!!!!
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    Sarah,

    yes I klnow what you mean, sometimes you can just get too much from people. I have used the trump card for dinner this friday, I said yes to an invite out but really don't want to go so I ahve just used the cancer card to get out of it. I felt guilty at first but have got over it now. Its my life so I'll do what I want with it.

    Sorry you're feeling a bit sick, do you have any meds for that? I use a couple that that doc gave me so give your gp a call they will have something you can use to take that away.

    Enjoy your lunch - always better when someone cooks for you - it'll be your own Nigella moment - lol.

    See you soon,

    Andrew

    xx

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    Betty,

    good choices - like them all!! but Smokey Sings is my fave of those ones.

    Andrew

    xx

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    Yes i remember them but never really liked them that much - kind of second hand in a strange way if you get my drift.

    Andrew
    xx
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    hello everyone,
    hope you are having a good day, listening to music some
    good choices, its pouring here today, so its good to listen to
    some happy tunes, thank you both,
    liz, my daughter is going to try your recipe tonight, will let you
    know how she gets on
    dianne xx
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    This is more my taste - if you put james Taylor into the you tube search engine Dianne it brings up all sorts of great sonmgs he wrote both with and withour Carol king.

    Its a little treasure trove for me - lol

    Anyway Liz see if you can continue enjoying.

    Andrew

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64_303eHaTM



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    I suddenly had a panic attack then. I couldn't remenber what I had jusy done and couldn't remember what day, week or month it was.

    Now that may seem a bit over the top for you but its enough to create panic in my head.

    I think its wednesday - I did see prime ministers questions ealrier so ot must be rght - so that means tomorrow is thursday and the weekend approaches. Now from that I can work out that the weekend is a certain day andf I now feel better about the whole thing.

    Strange how that threw me off completely for a few minutes, i hate being in the dark about these things!! but now at least i know where to go.