Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    Well its about 7am and I have managed to get into the living room and onto the sofa. I did this in two journeys, via the kitchen for coffee - lol

    Legs hurt alot and back too but not enough to stop me in my tracks so i think that means its a little better than yesterday but not as better as I would have hoped for. I managed about 4 hours sleep on the sofa last night then went to bed and managed about a further 3 hours there. Ther getting up part is the harderst and thats when the real pain kicks in. I know we are all feeling pain ourselves at aomse point during our day so I won't linger - you know exactly how I feel.

    Anyway, its getting a little more bearable and will continue to do so for the morning. I am hoping that, as with yesterday, by mid afternoon it will all but gone as the major source of pain for the day. That can cope with!!

    How is everyone else this morning, its stopped raining here but forecast for more later on so maybe a bit of a dull day in Leeds.

    Speak to you all soon,

    Andrew
    xx
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    Morning again,

    This isn't the best recording of this song but it is adequate for this, I love the lyrics and if you shut your eyes then you can transported anywhere you want.

    So lay back, close you eyes and enjoy.

    All the best

    Andrew

    xx

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4mWbusuTHA

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    This one is for Christine this morning - a Pink Floyd track - Echoes - starts with old foorage and slips into new video and so on through the track - lay back get the candles out light the patchouli oil and let it waft - nearly 10 minutes of Floyd - just for you from me.

    this is to get your day off to a muche better start than yesterday and keep your chin up for the rest of time!

    Andrew

    hope you like it!!

    ps - don't put it on too loud some of the cound has feedback (the old stuff) so your speakers may not cope - lol!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQE_Cvkfvd8


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    I saw that earlier and had a listen - its good isn't it.



    great minds think alike - lol





    If you're going into work can you do me a breafast fry up please?

    Could just do with one right now,



    Waiter

    catch you later?

    Andrew
    xx

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    Thanks - you're very kind. I will now tuck in and enjoy!!!!

    Andrew
    xx
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    I just listened again to this track, it is an old song which was re-worked for this akbum its from. The album uses songs to follow a love affair from start to finish. It uses a mix of old songs for which the orchestral arrangements were also re-done.

    I just think the whole album is terrific and so well done, there are two of her own songs included but they sit veru well wuth the rest and the arrangemenst work very well. Her voive seems to meet here with the mood and has changed over the years to a deeper more rich sound and it really suits the tone of the songs and the feel of the story the songs tell.

    Anyway, this track originally heralded the transition from the 60's to the 70's and the change in the way people looked at the world. Now its doesn't do that but relies on its great lyrics to show the transition from "blind" to "sighted" love in a new world.

    Try and see, if you don't like it then you've lost about six minutes you won't get back, if you like it then you can loose yourself in the words and enjoy, then try the whole album - you won't be dissappointed I promise - honest.

    Andrew
    xx

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqQlfFuQFXo
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    I have replied already Liz - are you not paying attention - lol - it was great!!

    Have you tried my song choice above yet?

    Andrew
  • Morning, all, you seem to all be having fun listening to music........have been up since 6!!!!!forgot what that feels like since I retired, it is painfully early, lol! Am now in the AppleMac shop ready for my tuition.....and daughter is safe back 'ooop north'! no, Andrew, in Cheshire, lol!

    Moomy

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    Hi Christine,

    I hope you too are well today and will enjoy yourself a bit more/. Catch up later? love that song and I hope you enjoy the Pink Floyd tracks I found and posted for you.

    Hi Moomy,

    good to hear that Caz is back and sorted - Cheshire is South for me - lol.

    The music I have been swapping with Liz for the morning has been good fun, I love findingh out other peoples tastes and sampling them,. a good way to find things you have not heard before and doesn't cost anything to do - great - can you tell i am a cheap northerner - lol

    Andrew
    xx

    OOps sort Liz,

    yes I know what yoou mean (re Queen track) I remember watching all of that concert live from lunch time saturday to sunday with no sleep. I think the tracks have to heard in its concept rather than seperately, so its either watch the whole concert or find other versions.

    Andrew
    xx
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    I remember them very well - on of my old bosses played trombone on their hits - how about that for in with the in crowd - lol.

    this was one of my favourites they did but the singles they produced were all good.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUDBzVg_-u0

    Have a look,

    Andrew
    xx