Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to moomy

    Helen i will keep everything crossed for you and caz

    thinking of you both much love liz xxxx

  • Thank you, Liz, I'll keep everything crossed for you ready for your next appointment, too.....

    love and hugs to you all

    Moomy

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    FormerMember in reply to moomy

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Sorry for the above gobbledegook.   I was trying to post a snow photo.......unsuccessfully I'm afraid.

    Now it wont even let me delete it.

    I'll try again tomorrow, maybe.

    Goodnight all.

    xxxx

  • Hi All

    I just poppd on here to see how you are and notice you’re having some snow pics.  Christine, if you go into the oesophageal group to ‘The Sofa’, I posted there on how to insert photos into this forum, page 2.  I made a snowman too, or rather, like you, I directed hubby and helped a little.  It’s not a particularly good photo, or snowman, but it shows that one can be inserted here.

    Love to you All today.

    Crystal xx

    snowman.jpg picture by crystalalbum

  • That's a very tall snowman.......is that you beside him?

    I won't need to go to Caz's today, it makes me feel a whimp but the trains are struggling, at both ends of the journey I'd be doing (she lives 150 miles away) , the funeral her pal would have been going to has been postponed due to the weather in Northumberland, so she will have company tomorrow for bloods and possible transfusion, also maybe the PET results from a couple of days ago.

    Take care and keep warm, folks, love and hugs to all

    Moomy

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to moomy
    morning crystal & everyone else

    i just love the snow man i,m thinking about building on myself but it all depends how low i can bend with out hurting myself well i do hope you and everyone else are as well as can be

    much love liz xxxxx

  • Hi Moomy

    The snowman is 5’ 10” and yes that is me at 5’ 6.  Hubby’s 6’ 1” so that is why the snowman is tall.  I’m glad to hear that you are not travelling today as the roads are so icy and as you say, your daughter’s friend will be with her tomorrow so she’ll be in good hands I’m sure.  I hope all is well and I shall keep my fingers crossed for good results for your daughter. xx

    Hi Liz, whatever you do, do not bend over or fall over.  Make a small snowman standing on a wall or table, (the snowman on the wall, not you Lol).

    I think I should make a snowkitten next.

    Love Crystal xx

  • Wow, that IS tall, Crystal! 

    thanks for your wishes, I will worry till I know of course, what Mum wouldn't, lol! 

    Take care if you try snow moulding, Liz, its awful chilly out there!

    love and hugs to you all

    Moomy