Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • Hope today you are all warm........just seen a forecast, this week is going to be cold, cold, cold! 

    my love and hugs to all

    Moomy

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    FormerMember in reply to moomy

    Good Morning,

    SNOW SNOW SNOW!  and lots of it.  More than I've seen for years and years.  It looks SO BEAUTIFUL in the garden and on the surrounding fields and hills. 

    I know it can be a huge inconvenience to many people but I hope most people can just enjoy it.

    The garden is full of birds coming in for a good feed and a drink from the garden pond. The small waterfall (from the pond filter) is still working so the birds are very happy.  I'm hoping to get lots of good pictures later.

    Fi, I hope your garden is looking lovely too.

    We could all have a photo competition (non competitive of course) and post a picture our snowy world.

    Wishing everyone a cosy day.

    Christine

    xxxx

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi Christine!

    I turned my computer on to charge my digital camera to do just that!  Great minds what?  The garden is looking spectacular and yet let's post our pics later - can we upload them on this thread in a reply?  I've never done that before - just proves every day brings something new.  I should be at work, but although I could walk (about 40 mins in snow) I already have a virus so didn't want to end up the worse.  I find even after two years the body takes longer, and is more fatigued, in recovering from these things.

    I love this snow, but as you say have to keep it fairly subdued.  I have checked my neighbour and my old aunt, so feel relatively less guilty at my childish joy. 

    Just about to have a coffee and one of the last mince pies - there goes my new year resolution already.

    Stay warm , and have a lovely day watching the garden birds.

    Fi xxx

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Finished all my mince pies even before Christmas Day.  Now the supermarket has run out of Mincemeat so cant make any more......YET! 

    Hubby and Son are in the garden as we speak and I must go and supervise, just to make sure they place the snowman in exactly the right place, and looking the right way.......lol.  I think I might be suffering from that compulsive disorder syndrome....hehehe.  Everything MUST be exactly as I want it, or I have a tantrum.......lol.

    I've never posted a pic on the thread either, so I will try my best, as soon as I get some good ones, I'll post later today.

    Just made some tastey Soup  (Carrot, Swede, Potatoes, Onions, Garlic and spices), and will give some to the Snowman Builders.........if they do a good enough job.

    Love,

    Christine

    xxxxxx

  • Ooooo, Christine, that sounds good, has inspired me, I'll go make some leek and potato, that's my favorite! 

    We too have plenty of snow and more is coming down too.....been out, fed the birds and de-iced the bird bath as much as I can....bless them, there was a real huddle fighting for the food a bit ago, expect the best will have gone by now! We have a pair of quite tame blackbirds who visit a lot, they have been brave enough to come right up to the door just after I dropped some crumbs of food, but after I had gone of course!

    love and hugs to all 

    Moomy

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    FormerMember in reply to moomy

    Good afternoon Christine & Helen it sounds very tastie two diffrent kinds of homemade soups well we have just had my curry speacil to warm us up well i think we have had at least 6 inches of snow and its still coming down fast i just hope its gone by next week as i have got my hospital apointments is the pre-med check for the shoulder op on the 22nd jan and the other is a breast check up . well i think thats all now have fun

    much love liz xxxx

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    hi, Liz

    hope you're coping oK with all this snow, and like you I just wish it would disappear! let's hope it's gone before your hospital appointment.

    winter-hugs.gif image by hgnetsue xx

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Christine, you'll just have to make jam tarts instead!

    While you were doing your soup, I made a Spanish tortilla - potatoes, peppers and peas omelette really.  Just ate half and feel a bit warmer.  Looking forward to seeing the snowman - we're too cowardly to venture out, except to throw some crumbs around, must do the water too.  Our cat Susie is wailing, she hates the snow but will come out with me thank goodness.  She's 12 this year and looks like a kitten still.

    Loving this extra time at home with my daughter - what a treat.

    Moomy, hope Caz is picking up again.  Lizzie, hope your op goes well.

    F xxx

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    Glad to see that everyone is filling their tummies to keep warm, and feeding the birds.  I love Leek and potatoe soup too Helen.

    I'm off to Tescos now, as I've run out of washing liquid (for clothes not dishes).  Hubby is working from home today so we can get through the snow as he has an X-trail 4 x4........good job too, because my little banger wounldn't even get off the drive.

    Talk later.

    Christine

    xxxx

  • I'm really hoping Caz's PET scan goes ok today, she was filling her face early this morning, knowing she has to fast for 6 hours pre-scan! 

    I also am keeping everything crossed that I can go up by train tomorrow, she has blood test and probable transfusion on Friday, as her platelets in particular are way down, all expected, but its making her feel a bit yuk too.

    The weather there is about 8 inches of snow, then we have to get into Manchester too, maybe by train if the roads aren't good, at least Macclesfield station isn't too far from her....but suspect we might have to rely on taxis in Manchester hmmm, thats about £12, argh, why does it all cost too much?! I could have driven her using her car, but her pal will be taking that to her Gran's funeral in Northumberland.........IF she can get there....so her pal's car (which I am insured to drive) is a low 'Smart' sports.....not good in snow!

    love and hugs to you all

    Moomy