Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    hi christine , oh i remember the time i taught my two daughters to drive , lots of naughty words and tears and anxiety ....and that was me !!!!!

    seriuosly iits a wonderful skill to have , so good luck to your son .

    liz ....i hope the health farm helps you , and that you relax .


    ive had a major tidy out today at home , i ventured into my spare bedroom , not a job for the faint hearted .....it had become a dumping area and got to the stage i could just about get into the room !!!!!........6 bin bags and lots of boxes later , im off to the local tip .....at least i can see the carpet now and it looks heaps better .

    yesterday i had a lovely afternoon with a friend who is a ex work colleague , caught up on all the gosssip and put the world to rights , then enjoyed a walk around our local craft centre and finished off with a yummy hot chocolate and cake .

    suexxxx

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    hi christine,im sure at the age of 17 your son will be fine,im 56 and i passed my driving test in july of this year i didn't start driving untill sept 07,i wouldn't have started if it wasn't for my husband,he has a brain tumour and he had to give up driving because of his seizures,he said if it was the last thing he saw me do before he die's was take up driving and i did,i wish i had done it when i was younger.hope your son does well. linda l
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    Hi Christine,
    Glad you and George had a good day and the driving is going well, have to admit
    i had lessons years ago but have never taken test, something i bitterly regret now.
    Liz i lost track of time as well, was supposed to p/m you sorry! but i am thinking of
    you and hope you are having a lovely time, you deserve it,
    Love and hugs to all on here xxxxxxxx
  • My song today was Abba, again, Money money money, and I'm exhausted, lol! cos I did dance a wee bit early, having done the cleaning too......

    Christine, we are ok, Caz off to Amsterdam today on her tour. I too was a late starter with the driving but passed my test the second time, first time I was straight out of hospital, with Caz with whooping cough at 10 months, needless to say I failed! But now will drive anywhere, including hubby round the bend, lol! In fact, collected J from college in Glasgow one end of term, 360 miles there, 360 back! Did stay overnight, of course....

    Moomy

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    hi liz , dont forget photos for me too , would like to see where you are !!!


    christine you are right , the cat just knows when its time for eye drops , chasing him round the room everytime , but the eye is looking better and i only have a few more days of this torture !!!!


    i bought an eye mask yesterday for myself to help me when im on nights as the 'sunshine' makes it difficult to sleep sometimes , anyway put it on this morning , and it helped , however when i took it off my left eye felt strange .....i felt the eyelid and it was all 'puckered' and i thought oh dear i have reacted to the dye in the mask or something like that ..............on further investigation i discovered a round sticker that packers use had attatched itself to me eyelid ..................i felt such an idiot , but also relieved that nothing major was wrong ..........one of my 'dotty' moments that my poor fella has to endure !!!!!
    suexxxxxxxxxx
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    Hello to you all, Sue thanks for 'being there' for me it means a lot
    Liz i'm looking forward to the photos, glad you are having a good time
    Love and hugs to all on here
    Dianne xxxxxx
  • Hello, my love and hugs to you all....

    Moomy

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    dianne .......my pleasure and 'anytime ' hun !!!

    christine ........hopr you had a 'sinfully'lazy day !!!!

    liz .....ooh you poor thing , rest and relax and enjoy all the nice stuff there and hopefully it cancels out the not nice things they do to you .



    as for me , in work tonight then off tomorrow , looking forward to it ....i aim to chill with abundance !!!!

    much love

    suexxxxxxxx

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    Liz, i'm sorry you are not feeling too good tonight hope you manage to
    get some sleep, enjoy your hot chocolate,
    Love and hugs xxxxxxxxxxxx
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    Morning everyone,
    Liz, thanks for the pictures what a lovely place it is, i hope you are feeling
    better this morning so you can enjoy it,
    Christine, hope you are well today loved the pink floyd saying.
    Hope you all have a good day, Love and hugs
    Dianne xxx