Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • Liz, I'm so sorry you are getting panics again, it sounds like you need a good session on coping strategies to learn and use, they can really be so helpful, I had to try some myself when my asthma got really bad, to calm myself so I didn't get into a bad attack.....it does work!

    Hello to all others, hope that your day isn't as grey inside, as mine is out there, it's truly the time to tuck up in front of a lovely real fire and toast crumpets!

    Moomy

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    I don't know if i ever could tell my close friends. Like you said on the first topic it only makes them uncomfortable and eventually move on with there lives.

    James
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    hi everyone

    christine ..... my friend is no worse , no better , she is at home and has a brilliant support network , of neighbours , friends , family , the macmillan nurse is an absolute angel , cant praise her enough .

    dianne ....lovely to see you you , hope you ok , p/m me anytime hun

    liz ..........thanks for the photos and yes i got my postcard this morning , it looks a lovely peaceful place ......i hope its helping you .

    regarding the panic attacks , as you know from conversations we have had , my fella started having them a few months ago , he is starting cognitive behavioural therapy soon and the doc has recommended a book to help with these episodes also ...........i really feel for you hun as i know from my personal experience this end how scary and awful they can be .
    moomy is right in her advice , he has started to learn some coping strategies and breathing exercises to use when one occurs and they are helping slowly .

    im having a very quiet evening at home , reading and relaxing , then an early night i think .
    suexxxxxxxxx

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    hi christine .



    RELAAAAAAAAAAAAXXXXXXXXXXXX!!!!!!

    what a stressful start to your day , must admit not on my list of enjoyable things to do .

    I remember taking one of my daughters out for a drive , early morning , she was doing reasonably well , then we got to some traffic lights and she stalled the car , and then she started panicking as she tried to start the car , meanwhile this plonker woman behind us was peeping her car horn for all it was worth ......i gesticulated at her and blow me if she got out of her car and came to us ranting and raving !!!!!..after i told her what i thought of her and blasted her for what she had done , the car started and off we drove .....my satisfaction was seeing this woman just standing there with her mouth open trying to avoid cars peeping at her !!!!!!

    suexxxxxx

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    hi christine .

    autumn is my favourite time of the year , i love all the colours of the trees and shrubs and the nights drawing in .

    I have an open fire at home and burn logs , and when it isnt in use fill it with pine cones , at xmas i spray them silver and gold as part of my xmas decorations .

    there is something comforting about a log fire and hearing the crackling noise and the heat makes you feel all snuggly and warm .
    i even extend the autumn theme into the colours i like to wear , rusts and sage greens and ochre and browns and beige .
    whether its because i was an autumn baby i dont know !!!

    right im off to work soon , doing a late shift today , swimming is on the evening activity agenda and we are making a casserole for tea with crusty bread ....autumn theme again !!!!!

    suexxxxxxxxx

  • Hello, folks, hope you are all well.....Sue, that sounds just a lovely idea, and you are sooo fortunate having an open fire! Wish we did.....I'd just love to be able to toast crumpets, put scented pine cones on, use it at Christmas especially and of course, curl up and just watch the flames from the sofa!

    Christine, good luck with your camera, would love to see a picture of yours on Autumn Watch, or how about Countryfile calendar next year?

    Liz, how are things going? Hope you are feeling a lot better......

    love and hugs to all.....

    Moomy

  • Liz, poor you, hope it wasn't your poorly shoulder which got hurt.....

    Christine, how horrible, hope your Bank has refunded as part of their goodwill to you, being a loyal customer and so on....

    love and hugs to you all on here.....

    Moomy

  • Thank goodness for that, Christine, sometimes Banks can be brilliant!

    Liz, hope that you are now being looked after with great care......and that you aren't in any pain now from that fall.....

    Moomy

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    christine and liz ..........big hugs too you both , you are each in your own way having a 'pooey' time .

    moomy , hi there from moi !!!!

    dianne , where are you me darlin , havent seen you about lately ?


    big group hug ((((((((((((((((((((XXXXXXXXXXX)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

    suexxxxxxxxxx