Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    Good Morning All

    Andy listen to Helen that was a very profound comment and makes absolute sense, only you know the answer as you know your own personality. I am a 'need to know person', you may recognise this in your self or alternatively prefer the bliss of status quo (not the group!!! ) lol .

    Lovely day here attempting to decide if energetic gardening is the order of the day or a lazy day?? Any ideas folks? I know I will NOT spend another sunny day stuck at the main PC though! Laptop in the shade OK!! hahaha
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    Hi Helen and Juls,

    yes I think I wull do as both of you say and listen to my inner self - like you juls I am also a "need to know" person so I will call them on monday and make sure it hasn't been cancelled by the Oncologists dept. and if not then i will go for the scan and just see what they find.

    Thanks for the replies I think you have both just confirmed what my gut was saying in the first place.

    The weather here is great at the moment so just been out for a short spin up to the supermarket to get some essentials (Pistaccio ice-cream being one of them - lol).

    Helen, the real reason i was up so early was I nodded off on the sofa again and awoke around 6.30 so decided i may as well just stay up - easier option).

    Not much planned for the rest of the day so will just play it by ear. Luckily our forecast is good for the remainder of the day and then again for the next few days getting even warmer up to 25c almost so very nice. I sound like a weather man now - hopefully not Mr Fish or it will rain for 40 days - lol).

    Watching the F1 Qualies to keep me entertained for a while and then the Rome Tennis Semis are on in an hour or so, so a bit of a sit down soprty afternoon beckons to me.

    Hope you both have great weekends planned and make the most of this wonderful weather (unlike me today!).

    Have a good one whatever you are doing,

    Best from me,

    Andrew
    xx
  • Ooooohhhhhh, had forgotten the F1 Qualies, will check that out, too.....always enjoy that, and tennis, too, no footie for me!!!!!

    Andrew, just hope your sofa is really comfy AND supportive, we don't want your back to suffer from lack of good sleep posture, too......

    enjoy the day....

    Moomy

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    Hi all,

    I'm back, did you miss me? - lol - joke (honest, not crying out for attention or needy in any way)

    Actually been for a ride in the car, it was blissful. Roof down and sun out it was absolutely great and I enjoyed every single last nanosecond of it!

    I drove down to the dry cleaners to pick up my quilt cover and then headed over to Harrogate but it was packed so couldn't park anywhere and get out for a walk so drove straight through. headed towards Skipton on a lovely driving road across Blubberhouses (yes there is such a place) and then cruised down to Ilkley. through there and back towards Otley and the road back home.

    I love just driving and picking the route en route so to speak. It gives you a sense of freedom that planning doesn't allow. Though I now think I have exhausted the northern shorter routs from here so will have to get the map book out and look for alternatives towards west and south Leeds. There must be some routes in those directions I can try.

    Out for lunch tomorrow with big Sis and, hopefully Chris as well, we are going to Harvey Nicks and that gives me the chance to choose my birthday pressie from Anne. She doesn't want to pay those prices so we have agreed that I will choose several things and then pay a proportion, she will then decide which one I'm getting and get it gift wrapped then I pay the difference. Seemed like a good idea to do it that way so I get a surprise and Anne gets to pay the amount she feels fit.

    So we will see what tomorrow brings and have a nice lunch into the bargain!

    This evening I am determined to sleep in the bed so that my ankles will go down to a more normal size! At the moment they are about twice as big as they should be, I call them granny ankles, but they are annoying me as I can't get any decent shoes on. I am reduced to wearing a pair of Prada slip-ons for gods sake! - lol - its true they are they only pair I can actually get on my enlarged feet. Good job its summer weather!

    Anyway enough from me and my feet, how has everyone else’s day gone and what are we all planning for tomorrow?

    Andrew
    XX

    Oh yes just one more thing, still cant't decide what to eay tonight - what are you all having?
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    Hi Andy
    re culinary delights, last night we had a steak bbq with jacket pots and salad

    tonight my version of Tuna Nicoise
    Small salad pots cooked then allowed to cool in vinegrette salad dressing, fresh tuna seared and roughly flaked, hard boiled eggs and mixed salad all gently combined, oh and of course LOTS of black olives with french bread and a very nice chilled Rose to wash down
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    The problem is in deciding whether to have Mascapone or Greek yoghurt Carte d'Or Ice cream - decissions decissions - oh hum!!
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    Juls,

    that all sounds incredibly delicious - go for the ice-cream, you may as well top it off extravagantly - but too much to prepare for a simple man like me, I'd have to go out and buy that!!

    My ingredients are composed of :-

    Bacon, Egg, Olive oil, Sausages, Butter, Beef, Lettuce, mustard, chocolate chip cookies and about half a ton of various flavoured ice-creams.

    My solution is going to have to be :-

    Beef salad with home made mayo with some form of bacon and egg side dish followed by ice=ceram with crumbled cookies.

    I think that will do?

    Andrew

    xx

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    Hi Andy Have just had supper and am now reading your suggestions, mmm OK like the idea,

    Do I tell you that tomorrow we will have Morrocan Lamb with Couscous - just nor sure right now if I will use lemons or apricots with the lamb.

    You have probably guessed I love food!! I am NOT prepared to give up wonderful food so I just need to have self control re portion size!!!

    lol

    What a stunning few days we have had!
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    Have a good night Liz and sleep well!
  • hehehehe, my dinner was MUCH more mundane, fish and chips from our local chippie, lol! But of course, Cart d'Or choccie ice cream to follow.....I too, just live to eat, not eat to live.... but tonight I felt very lazy......will be cooking home made burgers for lunch tomorrow,with salad, and have a loaf of bread timed to finish ready for a late brekkers, don't know if you knew I have a bread maker, and only ever buy bread now if we are away in our touring caravan.....

    Moomy