Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • Sue, that sounded a much better experience for you both, I'm pleased for all of you, for your other friend, too.

    Moomy

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    its very much two steps forward three steps back , but i will plod on and persevere .............i need her , she needs me and im here whatever it takes.

    i feel quite drained emotionally today ............i have a meeting at work tonight as well .............ah well !!!!!
    thanks for your help support and advice guys !!!!
    suexxxxxxxxx
  • No problem, Sue, we're all here to help each other.....whatever the need is....

    Moomy

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    Hi All,

    I dance away to Cantaloupe in the restaurant whilst eating my pudding - can you guess what it was - OK that was easy (it was ice-cream). My frioend thought I was mad but I was only nodding my head in time to the tune. No idea what the other diners thought and don;t really give a toss (pardon the language).

    Glad to see everyone else joining in and enjoying themselves so much.

    Sue,

    I am so glad the visit went well and that your friend was in good spirirts with herself and with you, perhaps she is coming round to things and will continue this trend with herself but, more improtantly, with you. After all it os to ner benefit of she does.

    Dianne,

    haven't had chance to say hello yet today so HELLO, did you hear that one? lol.

    Liz,

    glad you're back and hope today went well and that you are feeling good.

    Helen,

    hello again and I hope that you are getting your practice in for the Halle as well as spending time on here and also looking after Caz. get your music out and train those tonsils - must be easier than training lions and tigers or performing seals, no chair and whip required. Unless there is something you haven't told us - lol

    Best wishes to all for the evening and for the weekend as well.

    Andrew

    xx

    Best wishes to everyone

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    Well I suppose that must count as good news - I'd take it that way anyway because just why not?

    The sun seems to have gone to bed over here, its been a bit overcast most of the day. Still managed to drive with the roof down but it was trying to rain at one point so was feeling slightly nervous at times but didn't get wet so thats a good thing. Did manage coffee outside after the meal and it has stayed warm so that was a good thing.

    I am trying to decide what to have for tea tonight, i am going to wait until later and make it a kind supper/dinner instead as we ate lunch late and am not really hungry as yet. As usual I have sod all food in the house and what I do have I don't fancy very much. My god my life is so difficult! sob sob oh poor boy whatever will he do - lol

    I will catch up with anyone about a bit later on as I have now suddenly decided that a short nap is in order to sleep off the lunch and revive my batteries a bit.

    See you all later and have a good evening if I don't make it back on later.

    Best wishes all,


    Andrew
    xx

  • Andrew, just so long as you don't disappear for a day or more, we all expect you to appear here tomorrow morning, at the latest, lol, lol! (We're having a salad as although the sun hasn't been out all day, it is warm....maybe that gives you an idea?

    Moomy

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    Hi Helen,

    yes but the idea I got was curry - lol

    no idea why, I must be mad!!

    Andrew
    xx
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    I also promise not to have any fomr of "episode" tonight - curry or no - and will definately be here either tonight or tomorrow - I promise, promise and promise again.

    Andrew
    xx
  • Well, maybe the threat of me phoning you will keep you safe from doing the same again, lol!

    Moomy

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    hi andrew , you have got me fancying a curry now !!!! i have a night staff meeting later so not a good idea !!!, bit of a pain as its my night off but as i am team leader i have to go in and set an example to my team !!!!

    just had a text of my friend , she really enjoyed her morning with me and my other friend and her little boy.

    i took her car out for a short drive as she hasnt driven it for over 6 weeks and was worried about the battery , so good deed for the day !!

    i remain hopeful and optimistic !!!!!
    suexxxxxxx