Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • Night night, all, sleep well......

    Moomy

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    Show me the way to go home, I'm tired and I want to go to bed.

    Had a few drinks about an hour ago and they've gone right to my head.

    Goodnight All. Blurry Drunk

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    good morning to all .............betty it is lashing down with rain here !!!

    andrew you helped me so much yesterday with your posting , it made my visit with my friend much more meaningful , because we both really opened up ...........that was all down to you and what you needed from your friends .

    suexxxx

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    now liz ............you know i like a challenge !!! and if it is raining it means dancing and splashing in the puddles !!!!!!

    not before i have a cup of coffee and find my wellies though !!!!
    suexxxxx
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    hi and Good Morning to Sue and Liz,

    sinning, very energetic at this time on a Sunday - lol - I have been up for an hour or so trying out a new morning regime;

    wake up, take new drug and then rest for a while, take some oralmorph and rest a while, get out of bed and have coffee. Keep standing to relieve lymph node pressure on the nerve ending - have as much coffee as possible.

    Well its worked - kind of - as I feel better now so it'll do again tomorrow as well unless pain is different. I think this epiphany that has overtaken me and it needs to be an acceptance that I will have morning pains going forward and that I will need to deal with this each morning.

    I hope you two are feeling great today, Sue, I an so glad that the post I started yesterday has helped you and your renewed relationship with your friend and that this continues in the same vein.

    Looks like the weather is going to be good today so Richard is coming over to help me with my accompanied driving and, fingers crossed, I will then be in a a position to go solo next week (is a yippee to early yet?).

    Catch up again later this afternoon and I will promise to let you know how it all went!

    Cheers

    Andrew
    xx

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    I am not going swimming!!!!!!

    I don;t care how manbe times you both say that you are or have been

    I am not going going swimming!!!!

    although I do belove that swimming will be on the agenda after I visit the physio noext week - lol -

    Have fun swimming and splashing

    Live To Swim Surfer 1 Diving Hot Tub



    the last one would be me - which one is either of you two?

    Andrew
    xx

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    I was looking for a version of the Eagles "Desperado" but couldn't find it so I am listening to this one instead, I love Randy Crawfords voice but she keeps spoiling it with subbish songs - if you ever come across and album of hers called "RAW Silk". then buuy it immediately because its absolutely brillaint and showcases her voice beautifully.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF8jLK3c4S8

    I promise you won't be dissappointed - honest!!

    Andrew
    xx

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    Good on you then Liz, where's the pool - lol-

    if this records doesn't make you want to get up and shout about how good everything is - then nothing will!!

    I also love that version of Rainy Night too - its so relaxing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3BH9hKNPoI&feature=related

    Try some energy music as well.

    Andrew
    xx

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    hi andrew ..........hope your new regime works for you .........my friend has finally given in and taken advice and is now on oramorph , im sure that is also why she is feeling better in spirits too .

    she looked really dapper yesterday in one of her silk headscarves tied jauntily at the side in the shape of a flower .

    liz i have seen your photo and your hair is not blonde , otherwise i think the picture is a good likeness !!!!!

    didnt randy crawford sing a song 'you might need somebody' ?
    andrew i have a few eagles L.P.'s , i love the track 'lyin eyes'

    right .......i have to go and think about training with another friend , we are both doing the race for life again this year at delamere forest .
    last year we were at oulton park race track ........i wont be running , just walking , managed to it in 58 mins last year ( my hips had a right old moan afterwards !!!).....so if the weather clears up we will be off for a jaunty amble round a local mere ....then its off to bed for a few hours this pm as im back on night shift tonight .
    suexxxxxxx

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    Hi Sue if you are still here,



    yes Randy did do that song as well and I think it maybe on that album i mentioned as well.

    I am proud of you doing the race even if you walk it - its just a superb effort on your part to even consider it. The pain relief from the oramorph is great and almost instant so I am pleased your friend has givem in to pain relief, it will help her and you enourmously to get your friendship back on an even keel.

    I am going to get ready for my driving now so will catch up with you all lagter,

    cheers for now Liz and Sue. Have fun.

    Andrew
    xx