Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    hello!!



    I am sorry to interrupt.... Tim Buckley, 'Song to the Siren' (Youtube) is absolutely one of the most beautiful ever written (in my opinion!). Wishing everyone on this thread a good weekennd....xx
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    hello!!





    I am sorry to interrupt.... Tim Buckley, 'Song to the Siren' (Youtube) is absolutely one of the most beautiful ever written (in my opinion!). Wishing everyone on this thread a good weekend....xx
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    Kyrellia,

    oh I agree, it is one of the most beaufiful songs ever commited to vinyl.

    Andrew
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    Sorry about the enthusiastic double posting !! The version by Elizabeth Fraser is also fantastic, but lacks the 'spaced out' feeling of the original!!
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    Song To The Siren.

    just make sure listen to the actual original version especially on You Tube as there are some rather dodgy versions on there. plenty of cover versions as well - some of which are not so good.

    Andrew
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    Hello Moomy,

    I knew i had heard of the Halle Orchestra I just did not realise that the choir is a separate entity.

    I am so happy for you. I have been shadowing the forum for some time but find it hard to find a voice to fit these circumstances. I know of yours through the forum and I think you are wonderful as are all carers. We just could not do it without you. Thank you.

    Andrew,

    Good but not good enough!

    They don't come from where ever Motown did, I have forgotten where. Also many English bands from this era cite motown as an influence. And this song has a brilliant dance beat, just can't help tapping away when it comes on and it does make me smile!
    Hope your pain relief is working fully now and you are smiling!

    Hello Dianne,
    Hello. I love the Stones too!

    Barbara

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    Barbara,

    no-one has to shadow here - just leap right in!

    everyone has an opinion and we want to hear them.

    Andrew
    xx
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    As for the pain relief I think you could say that I am in a comfortable fog right now - we will see how it pans out for the rest of the day. Morphine not being known for its ability to make people into sparkling wits and repartees.

    Anyway my dulled brain is making me rather sleepy at the moment so I am off to bed for a while and see if some much needed sleep can be gained.

    See you all later,

    Andrew
    xx
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    hi andrew and everyone .........well i was with you all in spirit ..........at 3 o'clock i wasnt dancing but i was running around the 'home ' i work at , trying to avoid being hit by 'missiles' because one of my adults was not a happy puppy!!!!!
    so i expended some energy but not in the way you all did !!!!...........does mine count ????
    at 3.10pm ..........i walked sedately around the lake in our grounds , with the same person , who decided he had ' calmed ' down for now , we looked at the ducks and the fish and all was well with the world again !!!

    maybe i should have requested ....'welcome to the jungle ' by gun and roses !!!!!!

    i did have a lovely morning though , i took a young man i look after to college to do a 'cooking' course ............and i had a very rewarding morning with him and all the others in the class who had 'special needs' .

    days like this make it all worthwhile and worth getting out of bed

    suexxxxxxxxxxx
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    andrew wanted to share this one with you ..its a beautiful song .go on you tube ...........its 'all i need ' by air ......it just chills me out totally , i love it so much .let me know what you think
    suexxxxxxxxxxxxxxx