Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • Hi, Andrew glad to read that at least some of your problems seem to be easing, just sounds as though you're busy swapping them for others!!!! Also glad to see you are getting a great circle of cyber pals on here! Great you will get a ride in that new car of your mates', hope it is comfortable as well as classy and cool! hope you are sorted out by your Doc.....love....

    Moomy

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    Hi Moomy,

    how are you doing today. Yes i would probably swap kidney cancer for a kidney infection any day, but my sister says I was always greedy as a child so I shall have both thanks!!

    Richard has bought a range Rover Sport so it will be all of those things you mention and I am really looking forward to the weekend so I can get chauferred about in it. i will be demandning lunch from him as well, its the least he can do - lol.

    Actually I enjoyed helping him get the car, its partly a joy fr me to help and partly because I have not much left that I could spend money on just for me, sounds a bit awful i know but have virtually everything I would or could want so I'd rather help my friend instead. I am not sure what he thinks about this but I have told him I don't want the oney back I'm just not bothered.

    I have made some great new friends on here, I love visiting and reading the posts and writing where I feel I can add anything at all. That also makes me feel useful in some way that is hard to describe but wonderful in reality.

    I hope you are getting on well today and everything is going as best as possible,

    Have a good evening,

    Cheers

    Andrew





  • Thanks Andrew, for your good wishes....I'm ok, we just wait till our girl sees her Prof next Monday....

    A Range Rover, eh? very smart! You'll really enjoy that! we only drive a Landy Defender, which my husband calls our 'box on wheels', but it does all we wish it to do, just costs rather too much to run....I expect you'll get a half day off road course as part of the deal, we did and it was absolutely great! We somehow got another one and negotiated to enable our two kids to do the driving which they loved! It is a tremendous experience to see how much those vehicles can do, they are astounding!

    Moomy

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    hi all,
    im back, had my brother in law round, couldnt get rid of him, whats that you say about friends and families, didnt want to know before, anyway hes gone now. andrew glad you are ok, car sounds fab, dont forget to pick me up on way through, can go for joyride, christine are you still about ? take care everyone
    dianne xx
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    Hey,

    thats really strange about the off road day, i told Richard today that he must book the land Rover off roasd driving course thing. I saw it on TopGear and thought it looked brilliant and I want to have a go at it too. So i am very much planning for that to happen - great minds think alike - lol.

    have fun

    Andrew
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    Hi Dianne,

    wondered where you had been, yes you can't really complain on one hand when they are not there and then again when they are can you?

    Actually probably you can but just shouldn't.

    Where do you fancy for the joy riding then? Somewhere with anti-biotics and no infections would do me tonight - lol

    Andrew
  • Andrew, you should get it as part of the deal, think it was through the garage we bought it from....you'll just love it, except maybe the sideways lean, that is a bit more scary as they are rather top heavy so you end up being convinced you'll turn it over! But the steep muddy hills are a breeze! both up and down, I drove the 'wade' part and it was terrific fun! They try and make you stall, (which in low gear low ratio is a hard thing to do, there is superb engine management on them)....then you learn how to get out of the situation!

    Have fun....

    Moomy

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    Not sure about the deal, Richard has bought the car via a broker on some special deal ge has arranged so probably has no actual dealer type thing with it. Anyway it doesn't matter I will just go via Land Rover and see what I can sort out with them direct.

    He has set me a task to find a number plate for the car so tomorrow I will look at the DVLA site and see if I can come up with a pithy witty comment including numbers 66, 11 and RAC for less than £1000, should be easy huh!

    The mud stuff sounds great though, really want to do it and see.

    Andrew

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    hi andrew,
    ever seen thelma and louise? no antibiotics or infections, just tell me where and when, i will be the one with the pink carnation, or is that supposed to be you? anyone else out there who fancies coming on our joyride feel free to join us in fantasyland, take care
    dianne xx
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    Good Night everyone.