Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    Andrew:

    Got them on ye old smiley central.
    Got to go to bed now Andrew. I think I've at last got my body clock right again, cos I'm feeling tired by 10.30/11pm and I'm getting up around 7.30/8am. Is so lovely not to be sleeping the day away.
    Goodnight.
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    see you tomorrow sometime and catch up then. Its good that you are getting back into equilibrium with the works, am getting there too, last night waas only a couple of hours out, so getting closer by the day - lol -

    Have a good evening and night.

    Andrew
    xx
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    I think that this is my last post before bedtime and I wanted to post this accompanied by this song.

    I think that alot of people have heard of Jeff Buckley but this track, to me, shows off just how great his voice was and what a tragedy it is that he dies early.This song takes his best at the moment and mixes it with the sort of tunesmith vocal performance that his father was capable of at this best.

    I just think it shows such clarity and vocal constraint that would give you a picture of what he may have become capable of in his future. And to cap all of that he wrote the thing as well!!

    I love the timbre of his voice and his range, I just think that in this coming together over 4 minutes he puts it all together into something that is almost magic.

    Thats all I wanted to say really so just play and enjoy.

    Andrew
    xx
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DwhPufaAzs
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    good morning andrew , im off to work soon , but wanted to say hi to everyone ............i will be 'with'you all this afternoon .............a bit of z.z.top from me today 'gimme all your lovin'...........................that track you mentioned is beautiful .



    have fun this afternoon , and dont forget to 'include ' me !!!!!



    love and hugs

    suexxxxxxx

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    Good morning Sue and Liz,

    good to see I am not the only early bird (or banana) on here - I can just abot see you head banging away to ZZ Top Sue, have you chosen yet Liz?

    Sue, I am glad you liked the track, I find that it just sounds so seductive all the way through adn the lyrics accompany that tuneful seduction beautifully. Anyway I like it and am glad someone else does too!!

    Well I have just dragged mysellf ot of my pit for the day, I think may have overdone it a bit yesterday judging by the pains in my back at the moment. Anyway its only an hour to drug time so I will have to hang on for that and hope that the aches and pains dissipate durng the day. At least they are no worse that they have been and, in the case of Sunday/Monday, they are much better.

    I hope that everyone on the thread (and site) is feeling good and this track is for those who are (and those who are not).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8px9XnrlV8

    Cheers,

    Andrew
    xx
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    Hi All,

    I have chosen early today for the "Dance the Crap out of Cancer! selection, I am going latinand slo samba type as I feel that way out today, "The Girl From Ipanema" is my selection and an older version with a bit of a re-mix thrown in is the one I have gone for. It has both Astrud and Stan Getz on it as well as some amazing horn playing going on. It feels like magic to me.

    There, my choice and reason, now lets hear all yours.

    Andrew
    xx

    ps in case you are interested here it is -'

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpmGKbXxaOk&feature=related
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    Chrisitne,

    this will probably miss you if you are going out but just wanted to say that I am glad I could introduce you to Mr Buckley. Sometimes his voice is like an angel and sometimes can be a dit strident, case of trying tracks and seeing if you like them. He only made one rpoper album before he dies but there are many other releases following his death which contain either rubbish or magic. I suppose he is most known for his cover version of Leonard Cohen's "Halleluyah" which is quite beautiful.

    You can also look od You Tube for his father Tim Buckley, he had a voice that could stop an angel in its tracks as well and also died young. I think you will like Mr Buckley Snr, especially the earlier albums because they remind just a little of early Pink Floyd. His voice changed as he got older through drink and grug abuse but never lost its ability to surprise. Try "Dolphins" or "Look at the Fool" if you can track then down.

    Anyway there goes my music sermon for the day - lol - I will catch you all soon,

    and hi to Liz, Sue and anyone else still about.

    Andrew

    xx

  • Hello, all, my choice for today just has to be, again Abba, but this time, 'Thank You For The Music'....wonder why? haha!

    Moomy

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    Well there you go, just when you think things are in control and alls right with the world someone/something comes along to disabuse you of this notion.

    There was I thinking "great" and stuff then a bolt of pure pain hit me in the back almost knocking me off my feet. I retired to the sofa but that was no help so thought bed would be good - oh no, laying down was ultra painful and then then muscle spasms started. Massive shocks in the middle of my back followed by shooting nerve pains across my back and down my legs.

    I couldn't stand up (due to lack of muscle in m legs and back) and I couldn't lay down and I couldn't sit down. Floating is out of the question.

    Anyway this took about and hour to subside and I thought it would never go away, but it has and I feel a little better but now, after speaking to emergency Doc, I am adding Diazapam to the drug mix which the nice people at Lloyds are going to deliver this afternoon.

    So, there we go, what started as a good day went downhill quickly to utter dispair and now going back up slowly.

    Just goes to show, with this bloody disease, you never can tell what it has in store for you next. Lets hope the next surprise is a nice one for me.

    Thanks for reading thus far,

    Andrew
    xx
  • Andrew, how horrible, poor you! hope the Diazepam helps.....but does that mean you will be in danger of becoming zombie like? Hope not......

    Moomy