Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
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    Hi Andy

    Eat as high fibre diet as possible and take the meds religiously!!!! I found Senna useless but movicol was good when taken reguarly (I found the stuff absolutely vile and it took alot of gentle bullying from my fiance to take it at all!) ie large quatities helpfull. As you are so bunged up now (pardon thwe expression) you need to be taking more than one sachet if you look on the guidelines it outlines what to do when impacted (I think from memory its about 5 sachets at once!)

    As for the friend thing my oldest friend couldnt deal with it at all, she went from texting me constantly to about once every other week. However I found it strengthened some friendships, my best friend is someone I didnt know that well before my op (my 1st treatment) but she texted my fiance constantly supporting him took me out every week during chemo and generally was there when I needed her. The general rule is you can talk to some till the cows come home and they will never be scared off, but others you dont have to say much at all before they run for the hills!!!!!! My group of friends thinned but the friendships I have got are now unbreakable and I seriously couldnt have got through it without them. Please just have faith in what sound like some good friends some may not be as great as others but you may be surprised!

    Hope you get another good night tonight!

    Love Em
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    Em,

    good morning, I had thought of "overdosing" the Movicol to see what happens but was struck with the thoughts of only hobbling half way to the bathroom beofre the urge completed itself, not a pretty sight - lol. I think that maybe the GP surgery will be first call and then see what happens!

    As for the friends bit, after the posting yesterday and all the wonderful thoughts and suggestions I got I did manage to bring myslef to speak to each of my friends at length about my feelings as well as encourage them to read this thread and others for their own heads to get round this thing. They have all agreed to do that and not to hold back or be worried about me and my moods etc which is great.

    I am so happy that you managed to sort your own situation out and that new friendships have been born from this precicament we find ourselves in. I fervently hope that you are now doing well and your life is as sorted as it can be.

    Many thanks

    Andrew
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    Andyrh you can ask the chemist for a tiny tube of liquid enema to use when the constipations is not corrected by senecot etc. You will need to be very close to the loo as it works instantly, it only costs abou £1.50.
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    juls, good morning,

    how are you and hope you are well, thanks, at least there seems to be a plethora of varying things to try for this problem (better chance than curing cancer then!! lol).

    I think from what I have seen most remedies are going to mean being close to a facility of some kind when applying which ever one I choose, maybe i should rate them officially on here (probably not).

    Thanks and best to you

    Andrew

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    Andyrh
    The liquid enema was sold to me by the chemist as NOTHING was working for my hubby last August. His bowel had totally ceased to function. She said it is a minature enema as used in hospital.

    Juls
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    The rating of the various products bit, Andyrh, will be complicated as there can be other factors involved. Not that I am suggesting so in your case but for us there were.

    have fun - meant kindly
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    I think that must be the one or sort of the one I just read about on the Cancer UK page that nurses in GP surgeries use now in place of the full monty type thing so it could well be the answer.

    Thank

    Andrew

  • FormerMember
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    Hi yes it is but as mentioned earlier you don't need to go to the Dr as this is available from Chemists, but you will have to explain the situation to the pharmasist as they have to agree the sale. But as a cancer patient taking various meds they are very sympathetic.
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    Juls

    ok ta, just the pharmacist trip then, one less port of call today then, great. many thanks.

    Andrew

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    Christine,

    I think a verse of something from Sound of Music about whiskers and kittens may be the answer through the thunder storm - lol.

    When you get back up again please have a great day.

    Cheers

    Andrew