Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • Sinclair Spectrum, wow, that's a name from the past, the computers then terrified me, am oh so happy with my AppleMac......

    Am busy in and out cooking Lasagne....smells great....!

    Moomy

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    good night betty,speak to u tomorrow lots o love helly xxxx
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    Thank Liz.

    Goodnight Shelly. And a very big welcome, once again. Hope to speak tomorrow.
    Luv and Hugs.
    Christine.
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    God, Im such a pratt sometime. Dont know my shellys from my hellys.
    I mean helly, not shelly.

    I'll start again.
    Goodnight Helly, and thanks for joining our little family today, Hope you'll come back tomorrow.
    Luv and Hugs.
    Christine.
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    Moomy, I hope dinner went well. I'll bet your a good cook.
    It smelt lovely.
    My husband makes a mean lasagne, and spag bol. which I used to love. Unfortunately cant eat that any more cause I haven't touched red meat or dairy for about 6 years. I still enjoy the smell of it though.
    Perfume This is the only nice smelly smiley I could find.
    Luv
    Christine.
  • Hey, I totally forgot, had my yummy Lasagne and went into a happy doze while watching(lol) a film!!!!! The dinner was ok, 9 out of 10 as I didn't use quite enough cheese......

    Liz, am sorry you are feeling down, hope you perk up tomorrow, I know so well how that is, had a downer a couple of days back and had so much support on the site from all my lovely friends, am sure you will get that too....love, .....and to all, am off to the land of nod....

    Moomy

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    Hello, thought I'd say hi, have been out for tea but didn't really enjoy that much - so tired tonight and back ache just won't dissipate at all - bummer really.

    I have decided that a cat in hell has more of a chance making it to the docs for 09.30am than I have getting to the hospice on time! is there a song in there? - lol

    The hols have also been sacked for the time being - can't see any point in spending time moping round a hotel room for several hours each day - may as well be doing that for free at home - we will look again at that in a couple of weeks time and see how the back is progressing. If all is going to plan I would rather be planning a holiday I can enjoy rather than not.

    My feet have swelled up - they look like they have been attacked with a sledge hammer, ankle bones not in evidence at all - so have a round face from the steroids and fat ankles from god knows what and am more knackered than a knackered thing from knackered lane in old knackered town!! was i using a shovel there to lay it on at all - lol

    There, that was all sunshine and light and happiness wasn't it - lol but sod it, no point in making plans you can't keep (especially when they cost money). Anyone think of a good way to get out of a meal out of friday that I don't want to go to but have run out of excuses for? Answers on a postcard by thursday at the latest please.

    So, anyone else about?

    Andrew

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    God I feel bad - I let off a little steam here and all the kids fun off and play somewhere else!! There must have been about a post a minute going on and then I put my thoughts up and no one left - unless you're are all hiding behnd
    the door or something.

    No?

    ok - off to bed then.

    Night - you're too late.

    Andrew
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    Where do Christine1 and others get these lovely silly cartoon characters that they put at the end of some of their messages?? They've cheered me up no end.
    Best wishes to all from Grandpa Badger.......(Moomy, I'm going to Oncologist for results of latest Colonoscopy on Tuesday, then seeing my Dr after that ...so will let you know what they think about blood test for potassium level re peripheral whatsits etc that you suggested. x
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    good morning andrew , hope you have a good day today mate ...........poor you there you were leaving your messages and no one to talk to too ...........i had an excuse i was at work !!!! hee hee
    seriously , hope you ok , its awful when you feel pooey and you are alone .
    im just catching up with my friends and then im off to bed for a good sleep i hope , my eyeballs feel like they have grit in them im so tired !!!!

    thanks for your help yesterday with my assignment , my next one is ........autism and food intolerances ..........a 5000 word one !!!!

    just gonna collect my book to read for a while before oblivion !!!.........im reading a novel about a shakespeare scholar . its really good , its a thriller novel , but the stuff in it pertaining to 'the bard' is really educational .....it keeps flicking back in time to tudor times and present day ..............slight undertones of the da vinci code .

    remember , whenever you are having a rotten day , 'you've got a friend ' to lean on

    love and hugs
    suexxxxxxxxxx