Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • Happy Belated Birthday to Andrew for yesterday.....I hope he celebrated it up there! 

    Moomy

  • A late entry, 'Der Erlkonig' sung by the late Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau accompanied by Gerald Moore. Just heard that Fischer-Dieskau has died. A fabulous baritone voice. 

    Moomy

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to moomy

    Evening ladies,

    One of my favourite bands of all time, 'Kinks - Waterloo Sunset' http://youtu.be/4vRURpe6FXE Ray Davies tribute at Glastonbury 2010 to the Kinks.

    Yep! I am dancing the crap out of this awful disease.

    Happy belated birthday Andrew, I never knew you personally, but I do know from friends you were one hell of a guy.

    Love to all

    Maryxxxxx

     

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Belated Happy Birthday Andrew - my Action Man says May 17th is a good day to have a birthday!!!!!  He was 69 yesterday...... oops maybe I shouldn't have said that..............

    My song for today - a bit late - 'White sport coat and a pink carnation' sung by Marty Robbins.............. just because birthday boy Alan is a big fan of his and has loads of CDs and vinyl (remember that?)..........

    Hope you all have fun this weekend...........

    Love and (((hugs)))

    Dot xxx

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hello to you all and a very happy belated birthday to you Andrew . Well sorry i,m really late had to go for my disabilaty living allowence hearing on friday which i won . well my song for friday is meatloaf bat out of hell.so there we have it i hope you are all as well as can

    much love liz xxxx

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Liz this one is just for you (((((((hugs)))))) so pleased you won your case, although it is a disgrace you have to fight for your needs to be met, it is beyond me love.

    Love and more hugs

    Maryxxxxxx

  • Liz, well fought and won! Mind you, that shouldn't be the way it happens......(((hugs))) xxxx

    Moomy

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    FormerMember in reply to moomy

    Good morning all.

    Well done Liz. Glad you won!

    My song for today is 'Summertime', probably the Nina Simone version. Might not be appropriate this time next week!

    Have a lovely weekend.

    love, Anne.x

  • Oooo, Anne, are you risking something there? But it's such a good tune from 'Porgy and Bess' that I will join you, but with one of the original singers from the show, there must be a 'you tube' of that? 

    Alternatively, 'Summer' from the 'Four Seasons', Vivaldi, a 'bit of Viv' as one violinist said! 

    Moomy

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    FormerMember in reply to moomy

    Me three on the 'Summer time'............... and also the 'Viv'.................

    Love and (((hugs))) to all dancers....

    Dot xxx

    PS - Liz - well done for winning your DLA claim........  xxxx