Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to moomy

    Tomorrow's dance the c*** out of cancer   -   'Always', by Bon Jovi xx

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    After stomping round for the last few weeks like one of Wagner's Valkyries I think I'd like to dance to (or rather fall about laughing to...) 'Narcissus' by the brilliant Joyce Grenfell and Norman Wisdom...... You can't help smiling at the two of them having fun at the piano............

    Love and ((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))) and smiles too to everyone

    Dot xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    evening, Dot

    glad to hear that the paintbrushes have at last made an appearance -  won't be long, now. Are you pleased with what they have done so far?

  • Oh, Dot, you MUST be feeling better, that is soooooo good to hear! Hmmm, methinks a dear Joyce might be a good one for tomorrow, not that I can dance just at the moment, it'll have to be in my head......but I do have the sheet music (written out specially for me by a very good friend ages ago) of 'Stately as a Galleon'.......ok, that'll be my song for tomorrow, danced seated in my chair!

    Moomy

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Evening Sue

    The kitchen looks lovely - as I said somewhere else I've chosen to have magnolia throughout and it looks so bright and fresh!!  Kitchen and back hall just need the woodwork glossing tomorrow and then they'll be moving into the sitting room on Monday........So I'm off to llok at curtains and order a carpet this weekend or early next week..........

    What a difference it makes to have professionals doing it too.... Very little mess and no rows - sorry I mean slight differences of opinion!!!!!

    What about you - how are you doing???

    Love and ((((((hugs)))))

    Dot xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Dear Helen - I do so love Joyce - especially the 'Nursery Teacher' sketch............I bet Sue and Mary would agree that there's always a 'George' in the class!!!!! xxxx

  • ....and a Sydney, too, lol! 

    Moomy

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    FormerMember in reply to moomy

    Oh yes - and mine is actually called george as well!

    i have the video of the nursery school sketches - I also have 'Joyce grenfell' moments on a daily basis.    bless!

    struggling a bit at the moment, dot - lots of panic attacks  ; finding things a bit difficult.

    sue xx

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    FormerMember in reply to moomy

    Awww..........those were the days................xxxx

    PS - am signing off in a minute as I can't stop yawning - I actually managed a bit of time outside tidying the garden this afternoon - so I'm now feeling sleepy.......

    Night night all.....

    Love and ((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))

    Dot xxxxxxxxxxx

  • Awww, Sue, lots of deep breathing and listening to music is indicated......hope those panics decrease very soon. love and sympathetic hugs from me to you

    Moomy