Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Morning!

    And Sunday is sunny, hoorah.  I can see the snowdrop leaves coming through.  I'm feeling better today too.  I haven't posted here this week as been on the AC forum which is my particular type worrying about my clinic on Fri - well, all seems clear but having MRI in next few weeks as problems getting worse.  Otherwise taking your cue and feeling GOOD.  Roast chicken in the oven, local radio on - Snow Patrol again when I got home Fri (after 3 I'm afraid, but it still counts!).  Next Friday I'm going to put my Take That The Circus DVD on, it's brilliant.

    Here's to a lovely day, the air outside smells fresher and as you say, a promise of spring.  Just don't watch the 5 day forecast!

    Lots of love,

    Fi xxx

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi Fi,

    I'm glad to read that your appointment last Friday was able to ease some of your worries, but  I;m sorry they weren't able to stop the pain and discomfort that you're having to put up with.  I dont know anything about AC so cant offer any advice, but I can empathise when it comes to the frustrations felt when the specialist give the old excuse of,  "It's par for the course", whenever you attempt to tell them how your feeling, without sounding like the local hypochondriac.

    I have come down with the dreaded lurgy.  Swollen throat and neck glands, constant streaming nose......I'm sure you know the feeling!  The suns shining and it looke beautiful outside.  I can hear the sound of hubby chopping wood in the garden, and doing his 'hunter gatherer' thing, but I'm tucked up in bed.  The kids had it last week, so they have assured me it will only last for a few days.  But still I'm feeling a tad miffed that I'm missing the chance to potter around the garden and do a bit of tidying up.

    O Dear! I'm beginning to sound like someone I used to try and avoid.  You know, that person we dread meeting and saying, "Hi, how are you today".................SHOOT ME NOW, someone, PLEASE!

    A big HI to everyone else too.

    No matter what your day brings, my it come with some sunshine attached.

    Love

    Christine xxxx

     

  • Awww, Christine, I so hope that lurgy goes away fast! Colds are miserable anytime, but now, when you've at last been able to sleep in any position rather than being sat upright......mean! And too, to lose the enjoyment of a sunny day......lots of sympathy, love and hugs coming your way right now......

    Moomy

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to moomy

    Hello everyone.

    Well I managed to get through another Christmas ok. Slightly easier than the last one, I must admit. All that snow did have the effect of distracting me into worrying about it, rather than feeling sorry for myself. Also managed to dance both Friday 3pm slots. May actually manage a dance tomorrow if circumstances permit, so posting early (very!).

    My song for tomorrow's Dance the Crap out of Cancer is Tiger Feet by Mud. Heard it again for the first time in goodness know's how many years and it transported me back in time to the school disco and youth club parties. Sadly, still know the steps to the dance we used to do.

    Bye, Anne.x   

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hello everyone.

    My virus has been beaten and chased off and I'm feeling much better.....Hooray!  My hubby went to our local Chinese herbalist who gave him some sleeping pills for me. They worked wonders and I slept like a log for two days. 

    Our Australia trip has been put on hold (or probably shelved completely) because we have both discovered that we would rather see China first.  So we're looking into the different tours and trying to find one to suit us.  Something avoiding the tourist hotspots, except for the Wall of course.  From research I have discovered that the weather is very wet until at least late April/early May, so we will be going around that time.  Hubby has his annual Golf tour in May, so we might have to risk the weather in April.  If anyone has any knowledge or advise on what to see, and what to avoid, I'd love to hear from you.

    Anne, its good to hear from you. It's so nice knowing we have that connection each Friday.

    O'Dear, 'Tiger Feet'.  I remember it well.  The closest thing to line dancing I've ever done, and I was old enough to know better.......hehehe.

    I've decided on my song for tomorrow.  Its going to be the delightfully georgous Paolo Nutini singing 'Pencil full of lead'.  I dare anyone to listen to this and not come out the other side feeling GREAT!

    Until tomorrow then.......

    Christine

    xxxx

     

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hallo all

    So pleased you've beaten the virus - one up to you!  China, wow!  I've just booked Manhattan for October half term, for Georgie's 16th - it's great to have something to look forward to isn't it.  We both fancy Japan, so may try to save up for that for her 18th - at least we can dream. 

    Trying to beat away the blues and get back to happy - Paolo will certainly help, the girls laughed at me in the car on the school run when I started bopping to it (kept my eyes on the road lol).  I should be home as well for a change, so I'll be making a fool of myself in my kitchen with the rest of you, hoorah.

    MRI next Friday, so have to think of something extraordinarily good for the afternoon.  Feeling more confident that it's just radiotherapy damage.

    Be with you tomorrow afternoon, are we allowed a tipple do you think?  It is Friday after all.

    Fi xxx

  • I think a tipple is definitely allowed, but only after the dance, lol! 

    I'm still trying to decide on my song.....

    Christine, sooooo pleased with your news, and China, eh? Wow! 

    love and hugs to you all

    Moomy

  • My song today, i have thought long and hard about this......it's going to be the signature tune to M*A*S*H,  a TV series hubs and I love, and have all on DVD. I think it was one of the best things ever to come out of the USA at the time.

    love and hugs to you all

    Moomy

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to moomy

    Ran my little legs off last night to this and although I'm not fit for walking this morning, (let alone dancing), I've still got "Insomnia" by Faithless in my head so that's my 3pm choice!  (Not my usual music, just great for those treadmill times!)

    Have as good a day as possible.

    xxx

  • Hi to Everyone

    My dance today is guaranteed to get those feet tapping, if not bouncing around. It’s the Celtic Dueling Violins performed by Smith and Nesbitt in Michael Flatley’s Feet of Flames.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywMPtwM8avs

    A good weekend to everyone

    Love Crystal xx