Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi Liz,
    Sorry you have still got an infection, hope you get good news at
    the hospital tomorrow and  that they can give you something to 
    help ease the pain, will be thinking of you
    ((((((((((((((( hugs )))))))))))))))
    Love Dianne xxxxxxxxxxxx

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    Seasons Greetings to everyone,

    Berlin was well worth seeing but very wet and cold, especially the 1 and a half hour queue to get into the Reichstag Building, which I found very uninspirational to say the least.  That, and the Brandenburg Gate were just a tad boring but the Berlin Walls (or whats left of it) and its murals were wonderful.  They really made history come to life, as too did the history board set up at Checkpoint Charlie.  And yes! I did fall for the old tourist con and paid to have my passport stamped at Checkpoint Charlie..........worth every euro......hehehe.

    The Christmas Markets were brill.  Loads and loads of warming Gluewin (sorry for the spelling) and food and a wonderfully friendly atmosphere.............brilliant.

    I can now buckle down to preparing the home and christmas foods with renewed vigour and quite a lot of Christmas spirit.

    Got to take mum for her monthly check-up tomorrow, so fingers are crossed for her, as they are for everyone, to be well enough to enjoy all the wonderful things that Christmas has to offer.

    Lots of love

    Christine. xxxx

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Dear Liz,

    So sorry to hear that you have an infection (I have posted on your smile thread love, did not know). Hope when you visit the hospital tomorrow they will sort this out love.

    Sending you some gentle (((((((((((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))))))))))

    Love Maryxxxxxxxx

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    Hello everyone. Just thought I'd pop in to wish you all the best possible Christmas. Liz, I hope your infection resolves itself soon, and that you are able to enjoy the festivities.

    This is my second Christmas without Andrew being around. Last year was quite difficult. This year, so far, there is an almost continuous feeling of something missing , or forgotten. I've seen things in shops and catalogues and thought to myself, 'I wonder if Andrew would like that for Christmas.' Old habits die hard, I suppose. Still find myself thinking I should give him a ring!

    I have two Fridays coming up when I will be able to join in on Dance The Crap out of Cancer, and I'll make my Christmas Day visitors join in too! Friday 25th will probably have to be a majority decision, but Friday 1st will be danced to Kirsty MacNicholl and the Pogues song about Christmas in New York. Sorry music lovers, can never remember names, and not clever enough to be able to give you a web reference. I'm sure you'll know the one I mean!

    Once again, have a lovely Christmas everybody, and happy new year.

    Anne.x.

     

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    Hi Anne,
    Its lovely to hear from you again, i can understand the feeling
    of "something missing or forgotten" but im sure Andrew is
    watching over you, probably laughing at some of our choices
    in music as well, i cant do the links to songs either but i know
    the song well, think its Fairytale in New York.
    Hope you and your family have a good Christmas and im sure
    you will be raising a glass to dear Andrew.

    Liz hope everything went well at the hospital and they gave you
    something for the infection, do let us know how you got on.
    Christine sounds like you had a wonderful time in Berlin, so
    glad you enjoyed it, will keep fingers crossed for your mum
    tomorrow at her checkup.
    Thinking of you all on here with love and hugs
    Dianne xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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    lHi everyone.

    Liz, I hope your hospital appointment went well today and you soon start to feel better.

    Anne, its good to hear from you, and I too wish you every happiness for this Christmas and the coming New Year.   Christmas shopping can be very difficult when you have lost people close to you.  I still find myself picking things off  the shelves thinking Mum or Dad (in-laws) would like that.  Then I get that strange feeling in my tummy and a sharp pang in my heart as I remember that they wont be joining us for Christmas Day.  We will, like you, be lifting a glass to those who are no longer with us and whos smiling faces and company we miss very much.

    Mums oncology check-up when very well and they were pleased with your bloods.  It was so nice to see how this news lifted her spirits, and she actually said that she was feeling happy to be alive............Words I've not heard from her for a long time, so it lifted my spirits too.

    I hope you all have a pleasant and warm evening.

    Christine xxx

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    Good morning

    well i thought i would give you an up date my appointment went really well even though he was an hour and half late but it was worth it as he told me that the tissue they removed came back clear as he first thought that the cancer had come back . so good news he was also very happy with the breast and the infection has now go . Have to go back and see him in January. well i do hope you are all as well as can be thank-you for your well wishes.

    much love Liz xxxx

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    Fab news, Liz, now you can concentrate on enjoying Christmas.

    Sue xxx

  • Good morning this sunny, snowy Friday.  Liz, I’m so glad that you’re feeling loads better and that you had such good news.  Now you can relax and enjoy Christmas.

    My song for Dance the Crap out of Cancer is Let’s Dance by Chris Rea:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00cGFZ8WesU&NR=1&feature=fvwp

    Hope you weekend is a good one

    Love Crystal xx

    Rudolph

  • Liz, so pleased they are happy with you! Wonderful news that you are clear! 

    Christine, I was very moved by the ruined church in Berlin, more than anything else....yes, Checkpoint Charlie was interesting, the wall much more so, but I resisted the stamp on my passport! Bet the gluhwein was brill! 

    My tune today, well, i know it is difficult when you travel, but I'm going for the golden oldie....

    'When the weather outside is frightful,

    And the fire is so delightful,

    If you've got no place to go.....

    Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow!'

    My love and hugs to all

    Moomy