Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Good morning  to you all

    just wanted to say i have had a brilliant three days with my sister and the three children

    we have made cards ,went swimming, and even managed to go shopping all can say is roll on

    next year when they move back to the UK for good well i do hope everyone on here  has had a good weekend to . Plus i think i forgot to post my song on friday so my song will be we are family i dont know who sang it.

    much love liz xxx

     

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    Hi everyone,

    Liz, I'm pleased to read that you enjoyed the last three days.  I'm sure your sister and the children are also looking forward to living closer to you.

    Oh dear!  I also forgot the Friday 'Dance the crap out of cancer'.........Sorry everyone.

    I've had to spend the day in bed.  Over did it a bit last night.......think I had some bad wine, and too much of it, and by the end of the evening I was bringing up lots of acid and was is huge pain.  I'm still feeling pretty yuck.

    Paul has just made dinner, so I'm going to try to eat something in a minute and then catch up on the tv I missed last night.

    Need to try and get myself better by Thursday cos I'm going to see a Led Zep. tribute band which as supposed to be even better than the real thing.......Hum......I'll reserve my judgement on that until I've seen them.

    Love

    Christine.

    xxx

     

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Oh dear,

    Just took one look at hubbies sunday dinner and refused to eat it.  He did try so hard but it just looked to tastless for me.  Unless I have very strong flavours I cant taste anything.  I'm still starving, so my son is going to get me a yummy takeaway curry.   God knows what its going to do to my already painful throat......but I'm going to give it a try anyway.

    Love

    Christine

    xxxx

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi everyone,

    Christine i hope you enjoy your curry im sure you will, and i hope

    you feel better by Thursday and you enjoy the led zep tribute band.

    Liz you sound as if you have really had a nice time with your sister

    and her children, bet you cant wait till they all move back here.

    Hi Helen, of course i remember you posting on here and im so

    very sorry to hear about your mum and also that your dad is not too

    good, think we are all struggling with this new site but we will all

    be here for you if you need to chat. Thinking of you all

    with Love and (((((((((((( hugs ))))))))))))

    Dianne xxxxxxxxxx

  • FormerMember
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    Good morning to you all

    well yes it was a great weekend Dianne and i spent so much time with the children it was lovely

    just a shame i never got much time time with my sister but i will be glad when the move back .

    Christine i do hope you are feeling better today will be thinking of you .Pus i hope every one else

    is feeling as good as can be

    much love Liz xxx xxx

  • Hello, folk, on this dark and gloomy monday morning.....

    Christine, I do hope that you are feeling much better today....

    Liz, you are up and about early as normal, and posting, 

    Dianne, and everyone, my love and hugs to you all, and apologies that I didn't manage to post a tune on Friday, I was far too preoccupied trying to get the wretched kitchen sorted ready for supposed start on the new one today! but they aren't here yet......

    Moomy

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    FormerMember in reply to moomy

    Hello again

    just thought i would say hi to you all went to the gym this morning had a really good work out

    i do hope you all have a good day

    liz xxxx

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Good to see everyone about this morning, and from the sounds of it all feeling good inspite of the weather.

    I've have just managed to get up and dressed but still feeling so tired and my brain seems all cloudy and its very difficult to do the smallest of chores.  Even making myself a coffee was a huge effort. I'm hoping that its just a virus and will right itself all in good time.  I did enjoy my curry yesterday, so there cant be that much wrong with me.....haha.

    Feeling so 'under the weather' has made me think this morning:  Isn't it strange that when we are feeling well we just surrender to everyday life and let it lead us whereever it wants.  Its only when we think that something may be wrong that we stop and try to listen to what our bodies are trying to tell us.

    I've just realised that thats exactly what I've been doing........just drifting along.  I've not been doing so much meditation lately (always to busy finding other things to do).  So, this morning I did a long 1 and a half hour meditation and realised that I had been ignoring my body and spirit and was maybe very close to letting negative forces take control over my own willpower.   I must spend more time looking within myself, building and redirecting my energy where it is needed most, and putting myself back in charge of my own path that I want to follow instead of being blindly led.

    Today I will spend mostly in quiet contemplation on finding my own energy and later tonight I will do a camp fire discussion (may sound a bit barmy to anyone who doesn't know what a camp firediscussion is) but instead of bringing people to my camp fire I will bring parts of my body and allow them to speak.

    I know this wont make sense to many of you, but mostly patients will understand what I mean.

    Lots of love to everyone for today.

    Christine

    x

     

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    Christine i understand i have got my journey tomorrow at 10.00 with Nigel so i,m a bit worried about it as i think i have shoved all that stuff back to the back of my mind well at least Nigel know where to aim for so hopefully i,ll be free of it all . I did not know that you could use parts of the body .anyway good luck to you at the campfire

    much love Liz xxx

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    Hi everyone,
    Just had text off Sue she is having trouble getting on to the new
    site but said she will keep trying and she says "hello" to you all.

    Thinking of everyone on here, and sending you all love and hugs
    Dianne xxxxxxxxx