Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    Hello eveyone- glad to see you are all still posting and dancing. I'm afraid I've been very neglectful and have been taken up with kids and school. My Dad has sort of settled in to his bone cancer and his pain relief seems to be sorted but we have now got some more horrible news- my mother has been told she has lung cancer. They are waiting for her first hospital appointment to come through so we don't know anything - stupidly I did a google search and all I could find was how difficult it is to treat and how bad the survival stats are- I bloody hate this- it's just so unfair, how will they manage and what a nightmare lies ahead. Sorry only to talk when things are bad but at least you all know what its like. thanks for reading
    Margo (aka Helen L-B)
  • Oh, Margo, what a horrible double whammy you had dealt all of you, so sorry......but you should to try and get all their memories down, to sort out a memory box for the future......it was something I didn't manage and always regret, my parents lived through such tough times, Dad was an only child and had sad and very funny stories to tell, my mother also had stories, being one of 3 girls. they both lived through the depression of the 30s and the war too.

    Moomy

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    I was thinking of that early this morning- I don't quite know how to approach it though- maybe in a little while when the hospital have seen her. I can't tell the children yet as I don't know any of the answers to the questions they are bound to ask. Thanks for replying by the way- how are you?
    H/Mx
  • Margo, think about typing it all into a word document, jot down in a little notebook while you are with them, which will jog your memory, also ask them if they'd help, I'm sure they'd just love to!

    I'm ok, thanks, daughter is in France at present on tour with Seal, the hospital are testing a node and hoping they can get her onto another trial in August when she's home again.

    Moomy

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    Hi there- I mentioned the notebook and memory box to my sister- we are going to give it a go but only after mum's seen the hospital guys and we hopefully know a bit more! I did think it a good idea to keep notes while we are at the hospital though- I read on another thread that it can be useful to help you remember who said what and when, and what tests have been done etc- it is so easy to lose track of it all.
    Trying to be positive but I hate this waiting - such a trial trying to be cheerful and not to go on to people- so nice to be able to gabble incoherently on this site and know everyone understands.
    Hope you are all okay
    Mx
    ps found a photo of me with my son from a couple of years ago- we are at the Beltain 'burning of the wicker man' at Butser ancient farm- hence the woad face painting!
    Glad your daughter is getting around doing exciting stuff (sounds exciting anyway!).
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    hi everyone .

    well those of you who know me well , will know how tough it has been this past year and a half with my friend and my fella .

    well today my fella got a job , it is part time as a cook , but a start after being out of work so long with depression .
    i am so proud of him and the journey he has travelled has been hard at times , but he did it and is out of the woods so to speak ...he is nearly off his medication too .

    so happy , after losing my friend to cancer , this is the final boost for me

    love to you all
    suexxxxx
  • Sue, big congratulations to him! and you, too, for your continual support......hope it all goes well

    love and hugs to everyone.....xxxxx

    Moomy

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    Sue im so glad that he is feeling better and also well done to him for getting the
    job i know how tough this has been on you both.
    Love and big hugs to you all on here xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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    Evening all



    Liz - hope you're feeling much better now?? Well done for losing weight - loose clothing is the best way of judging how things are going!! Keep it up...............'s



    Sue - congratulations to Paul for getting that job...........I hope he settles in well to it........and well done to him too for coming off his meds. That is the hardest bit - losing the 'prop'.....but with your support he'll do OK!!!!!



    Love to all



    Dot xxxxxxxxxxxx



    PS - in case I forget tomorrow my song for the dance will be 'With a little help from my friends'..........seems appropriate somehow............xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Christine I was concerned to read that you had pains in your chest and oesophagus and as you haven’t posted recently I’m hoping everything is ok with you? Maybe the flu caused inflammation, which in turn caused that back pain that I know only too well. xx
    Liz, I’m glad you’re feeling better and well done for your continued weight loss at the gym. It’s a good feeling isn’t it and makes it that bit easier to try to match it again. Catch up with you later xx
    Helen, I hope all is well with you today and looking forward to a lovely weekend. xx
    Sue (Starann) congratulations on your man finding a job and I hope you’ll be able to visit your friend’s grave soon. xx
    Dianne, Dot, Margo, Loopylou, Susanmw, Jonnie5, ((Jools)) and everybody else, have a good day and weekend. xx
    Love Crystal xx
    My song for Dance the Crap out of Cancer is Sun Goes Down by David Jordan. Ok get those feet stomping, let’s move it!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vru35aV-3CY
    Crystal xx