Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • Hi Christine
    Did I hear the word ‘paints’? I hope you’re going to finish that beautiful painting of the flower shop, and then start another painting after that. Sorry to hear you’re unwell and I hope it’s not swine flu, so just make the most of the enforced self-quarantine and indulge yourself!!
    Hi to everyone else, hope all is well with everyone this evening. Take care and have a good week.
    Love Crystal. xx
  • I'm ok, thanks, just dreading all the tidying i have to do, since the new kitchen comes in early October! We need to tidy the caravan so there will be somewhere to have access to small fridge, cooker and so on since eating out and take-aways and microwave meals will get boring! ah well.......shouldn't have got round to taking that plunge, lol! they say it might take up to 2 weeks! i think it will be beautiful though.....

    just take care of yourself, dear Christine.......love and hugs

    Moomy

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    Im sure it will be well worth all the hassle Helen..........Its not often we have a new kitchen. It all sound very exciting.

    Unfortunately Crystal I do have the dreaded Swine Flu............But THANKFULLY FOR ME, the Tamiflu tablets are working wonders. I was amazed at just how quickly the take affect......not like an antibiotic which takes a few days to kick in. My worst symptoms are just a VERY bad headache and sore throat, which are kept at bay just by taking paracetamol. When it first started on Thursday Night I also had really bad aching arms and neck but that seems to be fine now.
    I'm hoping that because I've now had the virus that I will be immune to it over the winter.

    Yes Crystal........I did say PAINTS. But dont hold your breath.......I'm getting a reputation for being very lazy just lately.....but I will make an effort as I really want to get that picture finished because its stopping me from starting a fresh one, and I have so many in my head that need to come out.

    I must bid a goodnight to everyone, as hubby is wanting to come to bed. Hes not worried about catching anything.........he's got a cast iron immune system the lucky man.

    XXXXX












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    Hi everyone,
    Christine i hope you are feeling better today and you do manage to get that
    painting finished.
    Liz hope all goes well for you today as well.
    Thinking of you all on here with love and big hugs
    Dianne xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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    I hope you feel better in the morning Liz. You need to keep yourself as well as possible so that your always ready for your op.

    My day today has been a very empty plate. Did manage to get showered and dressed and then watered the greenhouse........then........nothing. Im feeling very weak and have a lot of pain in my chest. My whole Oesophagus hurts from the top of my throat to the top of my stomach, and right through to my back, and I keep getting realy bad sweats.........and I must admit I'm starting to get a little worried because it has come on so quickly.

    Lets hope I feel better tomorrow.

    Love
    Christine
    xxx
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    (((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))))) for you both Christine and Liz......take care xxxxxxxxxx
  • FormerMember
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    Awwwwwwww Christine and Liz, hope you both feel better tomorrow
    Love and (((((((((((((((((( big hugs )))))))))))))))))) to you both
    Dianne xxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Just dropped by to give some hugs to ((((Christine)))) and ((((Liz)))) and hope that you’re feeling better very soon. Sending special healing thoughts to you both. Sleep well.
    Love Crystal xx
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    good morningto everyone .

    big hugs to christine and liz .



    i am plucking up courage to go and make my first visit to my friends grave ...havent been able to do it yet .....but starting to feel ready now .

    grief is so strange ....ok one minute and then wham it hits you like a truck head on .
    i miss her and have loads of stuff i want to talk to her about .
    suexxxx

  • Hello to you all, I hope nobody else has come down with the dreaded flu.....love and hugs to you all, hope you are feeling better, Christine and Liz.......Sue, good for you, but don't feel you have to rush it....Dianne, hope you are well again and strong now.....thinking of all on here

    Moomy