Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
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    As there is so much sorrow and pain where ever you look today the song I have chosen is
    Made in Heaven by Queen. My thoughts and Prayers are with you all at this difficult time .
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    Carrying on from Christines post, my tune for today will be the very first one Andrew chose

    Shalamar 'take that to the bank' he said....
    "It takes me back to a better place, thats the only reason i need"

    Thinking of Sue who lost her dear friend Sandy this week xxx
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    Hello peeps,

    My song for this afternoon, is a tribute to Andrew - cause I heard this song and went out and bought the album. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvdnMzQGbEQ Home is where the Hatred is, by Esther Philips - for him the words echoed how he was feeling when down, but for me the tune rocks me to the soul and makes me smile and think of so many wonderful people on here....

    Sue, my heartfelt sympathy. I haven't been around much yet I do know that you are a good woman and there are not many people in this world who stand so steadfastly with their friends in times of adversity. My song for you is..

    I need to update my entry Sue, the system keeps crashing on me!!

    Love to all Bernadette x
  • Sue, Christine, Liz, Dianne, Jonnie, Bern and everyone who looks in or posts their song, I did dance on this special day, as Christine said, it is a year ago since Andrew began this idea, and for him and for Sue's friend Sandy, i danced till I got breathless....


    Rest in peace, Andrew, Sandy, Kiwi and all others who have sadly gone before......I hope and trust that you too are dancing to your favourite music in your own special way....

    Moomy

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    thank you so much everyone



    a belated song for today :-

    All you need is love ' the beatles'

    because thats all everyone needs , and when someone like andy and my friend leave us , they leave the love and friendship they shared for us to give to others .

    i spent today at my friends house cleaning and tidying .....there were many tears , but i smiled too as i felt her presence there .....she is gone physically , but she has not left me spiritually .

    i have the honour of reading a poem and speaking about her at her funeral next week .....i pray for the strength and the words to do this

    i feel very blessed and priveleged to have had such a wonderful , special , friend.

    suexxxxxxxxxxx

  • Sue, I am sure you will do her ( and you) proud, even if you find it hard, you are a real trouper and will get through.....love and hugs, my friend

    Moomy

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    Good morning all

    Liz: its good to read that your still doing your gym: Step Aerobics Keep up the good work, Im sure you will be feeling really good from it.

    I'm hoping and wishing that everyone is feeling happy in mind and body today.

    I'm doing my usual lazy Sunday. Not yet got out of bed. My husband has just come up to tell me that a damned Heron has got most of our fish and they are lying in various stages of dis-assembly all over the garden. Most of them were really large ( well over 20cm) and the lost fish would cost around £300 to replace.......GUTTED!!!!!!!.......and my poor husband just spent all day yesterday cleaning out the pond for the summer.



    So......I think I will stay in bed, at least until the lawn massacre has been cleared up. Then I just might buy myself a gun and sit in wait for my wee feathered friend. Chain Gun

    Whilst waiting for my son in the dentist waiting room yesterday, I was reading an article about 'stand-up' meditation. Sounds really facinating. Has anyone tried this, and if so, did they feel any benefits. I'm certainly going to look into it a bit further, and give it a go. Especially if it saves a few hours in the Gym.........lol. Yes, its actually suppossed to be a good excercise, specially for the upper body. And, its claimed to help lose weight as it increased metabolic rate. And, its claimed to help with joint problems (not the Sunday Roast.....lol) and help increase bone density. Im definately going to give it a fair trial. I'm really good at standing still......ROLF.

    Happy wishes to everyone.
    Christine
    xxxx





  • Hello to you all, it has been a strange sort of day......it began at 3.30am, (yes, I hear you say, any day beginning then has to be strange!) and a drive down to Heathrow airport.....I felt so zapped out that the rest of the day has had naps and zonked feelings too! ( and a glass of red just now! forgive the drivel!)

    Christine, what a cruel Heron you had in your garden! selfish too, leaving evidence all over the place, it surely justiifies the shotgun theory!

    Liz, go easy in that gym, we don't want strained muscles.....but bet you are feeling much fitter

    Sue, I'm missing you, but really, you need to allow time to mourn and recover a bit, bless you!

    Dianne, you and i see each other over on chat too, but it is good to see you posting cos I know there are hurts in your life too....

    love and hugs to you all....

    Moomy

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    Hi Liz

    You're an early bird this morning..............enjoy your exercise class

    Have a good day

    Love and hugs

    Dot xx
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    Hi everyone
    Helen, I hope you've recovered from your wee trip to the airport at that unearthly hour of the morning.
    Liz, Two! exercise classes a week. Your an inspiration to us all.
    Dot: Good to hear from you and I do hope your back to your usual upbeat self and looking forward to a lovely summer pottering in the garden and all the other lovely things that summer brings.

    I've had a very uneventful day spent mostly in the hospital with Mum whilst she had her chemo. It took 6 hours but went very smoothly.
    Got her settled back in her house and I was home by 5.30pm. Just in time to do bits of housework and put some washing on.......Oh lucky me! I'm feeling a bit shattered because I had 'one of those night'. Just couldn't get to sleep and finally dropped off at around 4.30am,only to have to get up at 6.30am.

    Tomorrow should be a quiet day. Just for a change I think I've nothing that has to be done, so I might try and get the inspiration I need to finish the painting I started last summer. And, I just might get to the Gym, but no promises. If the weather holds out, I might just go out for a walk.

    Take care everyone and have a good evening.
    Christine