Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    The area we were in was filled with history and social developments, it was the Leadmining hills just south of Glasgow a place called Wanlockhead, beautiful nautural scenery but with real historical value and experiences
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    I can tell I am talking to someone with an expert knowledge of Tantrums. You are the expert in the theory of tantrums, and I am the expert in the practice of tantruming (Is Tantruming a real word? If not, then it should be.)

    Im going to get a cup of coffee

    I hope you have a good night, and a good day back at school tomorrow, (if you've got to go in tomorrow).

    Love
    Christine

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    OOOO Yes I heve thrown some good tantrums in my time

    bent a saucepan almost double ....... and emptied a room completely via the window in about 2 mins .... good aerobic exercise! my excuse and I am sticking to that!
  • Tantrums, mmmmmmmmm...think ye both be speaking to an expert, hahahaha!


    Juls and Christine, I too just love Scotland, have been reet up't't'north, its wonderful! The Falkirk wheel is a modern classic bit of engineering, isn't it? I think my favourite place (apart from up at the very top of 'the Cobbler', mountain near Arrochar,) has to be Inverarie, and also love Glencoe, especially when its in a wild brooding mood!


    Moomy

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    Brilliant Juls. Your an expert in theory and practise, just the sort of person I like. Maybe we could open a Tantrum thread where people could confess to their tantrums and how good it made them feel......and get support and comfort in the knowledge that they are not the only adults that have tantrums, and also get a bit of comic relief from reading the grizzly details of other peoples tantrums.

    xxx
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    Sounds just the thing oh and there are 'one or two others' I could confess to if my arm were twisted!!!!
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    Hang on Helen, I've got to look on Google Earth to find out where Arochar is.
  • I had WONDERFUL relief from a pile of dishes that I never liked, they made a magnificent sound as they hit the hard kitchen floor.......

    Moomy

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    Hi everyone,
    ooh Christine a tantrum thread, that sounds good lol
    Glad you are feeling better now xxxxxx
  • Head of Loch Long, Christine, just out from Loch Lomond......

    Moomy