Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    hi to all of you .

    had to share my good news with you .....i have lost 6lbs since last week ...well chuffed ......feel very elated and is will spur me on to losing the rest of my blubber !!!!

    my fella has lost 10lbs , so together we are encouraging and supporting each other ....its a good feeling .

    plus i am raising funds at the same time for cancer charities , every 1lb i lose i will donate £1.00 .

    suexxxxxxxxx

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    Well done Sue.........you will feel so much better and someone will benefit greatly from your generosity...... Keep it up.........

    Love and hugs

    Dot xxxxxxxxxx
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    thank you dot

    and i am so pleased you are on the road to recovery and all is 'well ' for you !!!
    i keep peeping in on your tags to watch your progress .
    hang on in there girl , you will get there !!!
    suexxxxxxxxx
  • WELL DONE, SUE!!!!!!!!!!! good on you! Both for losing the weight, and donating too, also for getting fit, cos you will get toned too!

    Moomy

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    Well Done to you Sue! and your partner too.

    Keep it up.........and post a new picture of 'Super Model' Sue when you reach your target weight.

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    I hope everyone is feeling well today.
    I hope the weather permits me to get to my bone scan tomorrow........ My Fingers Are Crossed at Yeovil Hospital.

    Lots of love to you all.
    Christine.
    xxxxxxx





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    thank you people for your messages and support !!!!

    i have spent 6 years since breaking my ankle basically living a very sedentary existence .

    my friend has always said to me , sue i love you but please lose weight and get back to how you were when we first met ......so part of this is for her too .

    i never thought when i was motivated finally to lose the weight that i would be raising funds for such a personal reason i.e. her having cancer .

    she has been in my life for 13 years and what a joy of a friend she has been .....i find it very poignant what i am doing , but she is spurring me on .

    as to a new photo you got it christine !!!!!

    i hate the one on here , i was tired and in my tatty slob out clothes , but there werent many photos of me ....something i have avoided since gaining weight .

    not sure about the super model title , maybe a new improved sue ?????



    love to you all , im back at work tomorrow night , have loved my time off ....it was what i needed ...all batteries charged and ready to go !!!!



    suexxxxxxxxxxxx

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    Hi everyone, I just got back from the hospital.
    Bone density scan was really easy and quick, unfortunately, they said I want have the results for a least 6 weeks..........about 4 week to late for me to arrange my travel insurance. Oh S*d it!!!!! Im so fed up with lazy doctors. The results were right there on the screen in front of the nurse......WHY cant they just give some indication on the diagnosis......Oh No! they have to wait until at least 4 doctors get together, then spend hours discussing it, then compare then to other peoples results, then write a report to my GP, and finally it I will be allowed to have the results. SO DAMNED ANNOYING!!!!. If I could have just got a glimpse of the scans, I would probably been able to decide for myself if my bones were healthy or not.

    Outcome is, I've decided that my bones feel fine to me........so today Im going to start to search for holiday insurance. I'll just tell them to exclude the 'slight bone problem'.

    Contacting a few good friends to join me for Sunday Lunch this weekend as it will be my B'day on Sunday. My husband is an excellent cook, so I can leave all the cooking to him.

    Beautiful bright, sunny day. Very Very cold, but still sooooooo nice to see the sun.

    Christine
    xxxxxx
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    Hi Moomy and Christine1

    Thanks for your replies.

    The support group idea is purely self help - drop in and have a chat and a cuppa - so a face to face version of what we have on Share. When I asked about support groups at my cancer hospital, I was referred to a psychologist. Not the idea at all. There are CABs, council benefits teams and Macmillan/Ovacome resources for the other needs you mentioned.

    I've found it comforting to just chat with other patients and carers, whether comparing histories and wigs or just chatting about stuff that brightens our day.

    I'm hopefully at the end of my latest 4 months of chemo and although I look forward to spending more quality time with friends and family and less time at the hospital but, sometimes, like the thread says, friends and family are not enough!

    All the best to you all,
    Jackie
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    Hi Jackie
    I hope your having one of your 'good days'..........long may they last.
    You go for it!!, it would be a wonderful thing to organise and be involved in.

    Hooooooray! I've just managed to get my travel insurance sorted for myself and my husband.....£200 all in. BARGAIN!!!!! with 'Insure Pink' which is part of the Equity Insurance Group.

    Im getting SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!

    Christine x
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    Hi Christine,

    Wow! Get you, with your pink insurance - I shall have to check that out myself. I'm glad I checked this discussion as you've cheered my day further with your travel and birthday news though I'm really sorry you couldn't get your scan results. Soooo frustrating and infuriating. I'd want to shout 'just blinking (expletive deleted) tell me' but 6 weeks is taking the mickey. Bring on the big trip down under!!

    Time for that icecream and some z z z z z z z z z z z z z.

    Jackie xxx

    PS Last year, an insurer wanted a shade under £400 to cover me for a week in Paris. That was 8 months after treatment finished. I just took out normal annual insurance with cancer exclusion. Was hospitalised (won't give you the dirty details) on the last night - imagine, no dinner on my last night in Paris - but was refunded by the insurer.

    PPS JudyJ has been helpful re support group links as my brains are still a bit in porridge mode. I've a bit more trawling/phoning to do then I shall be on the attack!