Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    Good to hear that your shoulder is easing out, and hopefully a bit less painful when your having your physio. Your sounding much brighter Liz, it much have been your playful weekend.
    Keep up the good work.

    I look a bit terrible at the moment (quite scary) because loads of blood vessels heamoraged in my right eye this morning. Dont know how or why. Went to see optician who said all seems ok but I should go and see my doctor, so went to docs who also has no idea why, but gave me some eyedrops and I have to have yet another blood test on 12th Feb so that they can find out why the eye his heamoraging (god knows how they tell from blood test.....it seems to their response to any ailment.....just have another blood test. Im also suffering with something called Benign Paroxysmal Positional Vertigo (in lay terms.....I get very dizzy and feel sick when I move my head) which is apparantly some sort of blockage inside one of the ear chambers. Upshot of this is that I have to sleep sitting upright for 2 days, and I must'nt move my head quickly or bend down (to tie shoelace ect) for about a week. If Im a good girl and do as I've been told then it may get better.

    Got to have my vaccinations for my holiday tomorrow........what a fun day!!!!! Plus gums are still sore from the tooth I had out yesterday......at least I dont have a gap.....my dentist fitted a temporary bridge, which is so good that you cant tell it from a real tooth. Well done to my dentist!!!

    We've just had another dumping of snow this evening, so everything is shining white in the moonlight......lovely, but I think I agree with Liz in that it really restricts my going out so, as nice as it is, I think I've had enough now and will be glad to see the end of it.

    Good night all.
    xxx
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    i agree with the rest of you , will be glad when the snow goes .......i live in fear of toppling over .......i had a titanium plate put in my ankle when i broke it 6 years ago , every step i take is very gingerly and carefully !!!!!!

    thanks helen for your words about my friend , it is hard to see her like this , but at least it is more 'bearable' for her when her pain medication is sorted .



    liz , hope the pain meds are helping the shoulder , ibubrofen works great for me with the elbow , get my results next week from my x-ray .

    christine , you sound in the wars girl !!!!....love and hugs to you .



    i am off to the gym later , it is going really well and for the first time for a long time i fell very motivated and energised .



    love to you all

    suexxxxxxxxxxx

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    Hi everyone,
    Sorry if I sounded a tad pre-occupied with my own ailments yesterday......Its not nearly as bad as I made it sound. Gums are feeling 100% better today, Had my first vaccination jab today but have to go back next week for the second one. This is because I will only allow them to use my left arm. I always insist that noone messes with my right arm as this is the arm where my lymph nodes were removed and any breakage of the skin (for any reason) could allow infection to enter and cause lymphodemia.

    Today I had my Polio, Tetinus and Diphtheria..........injection site is fine and my arm doesn't hurt at all.

    90% of our snow has vanished today. I hope it stays away because I want to go to the cinema and out for an meal on Saturday with my husband and some friends........going to see 'Slum Dog Millionnaire'. It seems to be having rave reviews.........and has got to be better than the last lot of rubbish I saw......'Australia'.

    It was'nt easy trying to sleep sat upright last night. Every time I dosed of, my head fell to one side and woke me up again......only one more night of 'sit up sleep'. Paul is ordering a new bed.....a double bed but with two single matteresses, and the sleeping angle of each matteress can be altered to suit. So I can raise the head or feet if needed. Hopefully that will make sleeping more comfortable for me (because I cant sleep laying flat) and, more importantly, my husband will be able to sleep with me. He has been relegated to a blowup bed in the lounge for the past month, poor thing.....he never complains.

    Fingers Crossed Fingers crossed for you Liz.........hope it all goes well.

    Haven't made a decission about my dance music for tomorrows 'dance the C**p out of C'........I'll sleep on it.

    I hope everyone has a good night......a good friday.......and a good weekend.

    Love
    Christine.







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    Morning all.
    Liz, I hope you managed to sleep without worrying about your appointment today.......I'll be with you in spirit, and I hope all goes well.

    I made a big mistake last night......I said the snow had almost gone. You should see it this morning......Its been many a year since we had it THIS bad.........27 years to be exact (aaarrrhhhh I remember it well). Its still snowing and a bitterly cold wind howling. Its like that film 'the day after tomorrow'. All school and collages are closed again so the kids must all be loving it. My husband is working from home today because he cant get to his studio in Bristol.....so maybe I'll be able to tempt him into playing hookie and escorting me in a walk into town to our healthfood cafe which does a wonderful soup.......just what the doctor ordered.....lol.

    I suppose my song for today should be 'frosty the snowman', but its not going to be. After a little thought (thats all Im capable of) my song for the 3pm Dance the C**p out of C is going to be Neil Young's After the Gold Rush.

    Neil Young - After the Gold Rush

    Wishing everyone that lightness of spirit that only comes from inner peace and contentment.

    Christine
    x

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    Hi all

    It's nearly 3:00pm and I've chosen to mentally jig around to Mama Mia (this translates to 'Mam I'm 'ere' in Yorksher-speak - or as you Southerners prefer 'Mother I am here')!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry I won't be dancing this week..............too many extra loose wobbly bits - would still be dancing 2 hours later!!!! (is this toooooo much detail?)

    Dot xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • My tune for 'Dance the C**p out of cancer' today is 'Ground Force' from the TV programme, its on a super CD by Black Dyke Brass Band

    Moomy

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    Haven't listened to them for ages................love brass band music...........I live on the doorstep of the Grimethorpe Band!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Dot, you and us too, especially my hubs! He was really delighted when i bought him that CD as a present!

    Whew! that was good, maybe a touch early though!

    Moomy

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    hi everyone

    thought of my tune this morning then forgot to post it !!!!!! doh!!!!!!

    what else could it be for me at the moment but :-

    OLIVIA NEWTON JOHN 'LETS'S GET PHYSICAL '


    Liz im enjoying the exercise very much , its totally energised and motivated me, its so good to feel this way , have felt very sluggish and tired for a long time .
    Well i thought i was doing well had 5 days annual leave so far this week , dont return to work until tues night , but my manager rang me today on an errand of mercy ....could i work tomorrow 12.15pm to 10.15pm as a fellow twam leader gone off sick and they need another team leader to cover the shift ........i gave in and said yes !!!
    it just means juggling stuff around i had planned to do ...one of which was a walking trek in our local forest with my fella .
    the money will be very welcome at the end of the month though , as like most people i am still recovering financially from xmas !!!!!

    going to treat myself to beyonce's c.d , i love the track 'if i was a boy '.

    my healthy eating plan ( diet) is going well , i get weighed on monday ....i am thinking of doing a sponsered slim for cancer research /macmillan ... what do you think ?

    suexxxxxxxxxxx

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    Hi
    I enjoyed listening to my Neil Young track.

    Great to see you back on form Dottee, and making us laugh. I wish you a speedy recovery. Sorry, I cant join Helen or your enthusiasm for the Brass Band. Unfortunately I was born to far from Yorkshire, so have a total lack of all things cultural......lol

    Liz, I hope everything went well at your check-up today.

    Goodnight everyone
    xxx