Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    Dear Starann thank you for you lovely post of encouragement. I went to my sewing class today and have worried all day about yesturday`s upset, I`ve just come home and decided to check messages and looked on this site and found your post, Thank you for taking the time to reply and making me feel much better. We are having a very difficult time with husbands illness as we were told straight off that there is no cure or hope of remission for mesothelioma, with a prognoisis of a few months to a year. Some patients have survived two but husbands, was pretty widespread before he had any symptons. We live every day to the full as much as we can and awaits he 1st course of chemo which is only for pallitive measures. I have a friend who posts on the p,m, whose husband also has the same form of cancer and has exceeded his first prognoisis, she is so caring and supportive it does give us hope. I got up in the early hours this morning purposely to read from the beginning of Andy`s post and can see why he was so loved. I also realised how I made the mistake on the first post as I read the page I clicked onto without realising I should have gone to the last page before replying. Happily this seems to be sorted out now with no ill feeling. Love Lizbrad.
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    Hi Kate 123. Thank you for being kind enough to post your apology over my mistake with Andy`s post yesturday. I am pleased that this seems to be resolved without any further hurt on either side. I have spent a long time early hours this morning reading Andy`s story and can see why he was so special . See my reply to Starann which explains how I got the techniec of posting so wrong. thank you love Lizbrad.
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    Good evening everyone.
    I hope everyone is keeping well, and sane.
    I think Im going to move house and live in a nice quiet tent somewhere. Both my sons passed their driving test this week and now theres constant squabbling over who going to have the car for the day. HELLO, THIS IS MY CAR YOUR SQUABBLING OVER!!!. They seem to have forgotten that small fact.
    Oh Well!.......Ive just downloaded some Velvet underground tracks, so its glass of wine, headphones on, and blast myself back to the good old peace and love days with Venus in Furs: velvet underground - venus in furs


    Kate, sorry you were tired and emotional the other night and I hope your feeling better.
    LizB: We all understand, you are not the first to direct a post to our dear Andrew without realizing he had sadly died last September......and Im sure you wont be the last. But like everyone else has said, we welcome anyone who wishes to post on this thead, we are all friends,(Except for the dragon Kate..............................NO ONLY JOKING KATE...............Please dont breath fire on me......LOL) and we wish you strength and peace in your troubled times. And, your welcome for a chat, anytime you like.

    Perhaps I could ask you Moomy. Do you think there is a way of contacting the Mac Admin and explaining that we would like a message added before Andrews first post, informing people that Andrews died, but the thread is still if full swing, in Andrews honour.?

    Lots of love to you all.
    xxxxx


  • Hello, Christine, good to see you posting! Mmmmmm, about the car, how about you keeping the keys in a special place that only you know about? And/or shutting it well away from their prying eyes, in a place only you know? (not too sure where though!) Oh, yes, how about leaving it almost empty of fuel so if they use it, they have to fill up? hahahaha!

    And Lizbrad, Sue and Kate too, great to see harmony again! Thank you to everyone!

    Christine, I will give that idea some thought and see if there is anything that can be done to help, great suggestion!

    Moomy

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    Moomy, I such a walkover where my boys are concerned.....just cant say no. I've got this place where I put all my important bits and pieces that I dont want to lose. Unfortunately......I can remember where it is!!!!! Falling Off Chair Laughing





  • hahahaha! Christine, i bet so many of us have 'safe places' that we put things in, never to find them again! I certainly have!

    Have sent you a p/m

    Moomy

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    Christine, howled laughing at your dragon quote, my type of humour, !! Couple of much needed early nights have sorted me out and Ive got my nice head on now, not sure I have ever been sane though !! ha ha ha
  • Hey, Sweet Kate, good on you! Hope you haven't had any visitations in your place again!

    Hello, Christine, Sue, Liz, Dianne, Lizbrad too, and anyone else which my one brain cell has forgotten.....hope your day has begun better than mine, my internet went kaput, and it took a determined call to the call centre, in India of course, to get it sorted! at leat its done,till the next time the blessed thing has a hissy fit! Love and hugs to you all

    Moomy

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    hello to everyone .
    just deleted 45 pages of messages !!!! took me ages .

    wondered why my computer was running slow !!!

    not much to say today except hi and love to you all
    suexxxxxxxx
  • Hello, Sue, was that on your Macmillan pages or the main computer? Cos the site is running slowly, anyway, has been for a while.

    ho-hum, maybe I need to be doing some of the same too, maybe it's all the messages I've had that are slowing this up, too?

    Moomy