Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    Dear Andyrh, If you are feeling really awful that is fine for you to tell your friends that, imagine if the friends were the ones in need of support and had cancer you would rather they were truthful and tell you how they really felt not hide feeling just so it made you feel better' You will over the course of time find out the true friends and caring family, Often people don`t know what to say, we have had friends and family phone and tell us the are ringing to offer their support but openly tell us they don`t know what to say to us. That is ok. for people to do that at least they are still ringing and talking to us, even if they are at a loss for words. I know it is very easy to fall into the trap of always answering "I`m fine" when no are not so don`t beat yourself up about admitting how you really are. Keep smiling and all the best, keep posting for continuous support. love Lizbrad.
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    andyrh passed away a few months ago , he was a lovely lovely caring man and a great friend to all of us here .

    he is missed so much here , for his wisdom , his humour , his bravery , his friendship and his love of life .

    his 'friends' here decided to keep his memory alive by continuing the thread he started .

    suexxxxxxx

  • Sue, Kate, I explained to Lizbrad in a p/m, she has recently joined, didn't know, and isn't too good on computers yet either, but learning fast!

    Moomy

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    hi moomy

    i didnt want to make lizbrad feel bad , as her posting was with the best of intentions , im sure andrew would have relied in his usual friendly way .

    i just wanted to make 'new' people on the site aware of andrew's passing last year .
    its good to see that new people are still replying , the more the merrier .


    so on andrews behalf , thank you for your posting lizbrad and to others who venture this way .

    much love
    suexxxxxxxxxxxx
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    Dear Kate123 and everyone else I may have upset or offended. As Moomy posted I am new to the site and still learning my way around computors. I would not for all the world delibretly cause anyone hurt or upset, I in all innocence replied to a post thinking I was giving someone support. In future I shall only post on my friends site and that way I won`t inadvertently cause any further upset to anyone. I wish everyone going through this journey strength and courage. Love Lizbrad.
  • Hey, Liz, I'm sure we all understand, these mistakes do happen and I for one would hate to see someone with great intentions stop posting in case they find or fuel a mix-up....in any case, with Andrew's dry sense of humour, i wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't right now having a wry smile!

    Andrew, I know for sure, would have welcomed your post, Lizbrad!

    Moomy

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    lizbrad .

    I second what moomy says , your posting was lovely and i am sure andrew would have replied in his own inimitable style ....he welcomed everyone here to his tag , and loved to discuss things at length with others ...his sense of humour was legendary as was his gift of friendship .

    so please feel free to pop in and join us , it was lovely to 'see' you

    suexxxxxx

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    Dear lizbrad

    Please accept my sincere apologies over my stroppy post last night, I am truly sorry and very embarrassed, I was tired and emotional and had NO right to rant at you, I mean how were you suppossed to of known? Please continue to post on all threads and dont allow this stroppy moo to put you off posting !!, as the ladies have said Andrew would of found it very very funny it was an easy mistake to make, I apologise again.

    Kate xxxxxxxx