Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    Goodmorning
    Its very nice to hear that Darren is back again.
    Im deaf in one ear this morning and head is spinning. I think my cold virus has caused an ear infection so I've made a Dr's appointment to10.20am. Going to have a shower now, and see if Im capable of driving to Doctors. If not, then I can call my son for a lift......he is on his work placement day from college. Luckily his work placement is in the Care Home next to the Doctors Surgery.

    I hope everyone had a good weekend.
    I'll expect to talk to you later.
    Love
    Christine.
    xxx
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    Doctor gave me some antibiotics for an ear and chest infection.
    Got home, sat down for a while, then thought I might tidy the kitchen a bit. Started washing the cups and plates then something snapped and I thought......WHAT AM I DOING......I SHOULD'NT HAVE TO BE CLEANING OTHER PEOPLES MESS. So, I threw and tantrum.....along with a few plates and cups, coffee and water. WOW! my kitchen looks like I've been burgled and vandalised.
    So, I've calmed down now and had another cup of coffee.
    When they come home and ask about the mess, I shall tell them not to make a fuss over such a small thing. Thats what they usually say to me when I nag about a mess.

    Hey Ho......Seasons Greeting.

    Sorry!.......Its a bit of a me me me day. YES! very possibly I have just lost the few marbles I had left. And YES, I know Im only talking to myself........I dont care!.

  • Actually, at that time, Christine, dear, you WERE talking to yourself as we couldn't post back to you! But did have a chat via p/m didn't we?

    Hello to all, hope your day is good, at least as good as Christine's, lol! hahaha! Christine, didn't mean that!

    Liz, hope you are finding your feet now back in the UK, bet you're getting confused now, having to speak in English, lol!

    Dianne, hello, hope all is a bit better for you, this time is tough for many, I know....

    Darren, where are you? did you get lost on the way here?, lol!

    love and hugs to all.....

    Moomy

  • Liz, I'm glad your day went well, and hope that all others did too, Christine, (forgive that teasing yesterday, it was meant very gently and in fun, please!), Dianne, Sue and anyone and everyone else.....my love and hugs to you all....

    Moomy

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    Hi Liz. Its good to see your keeping yourself busy and sorting out all your hospital and Doctor stuff so that they can keep a good eye on you. You've got to behave now, or we will all be coming over to sort you out...........with a good drink and laugh!.......lol.

    Moomy: I was 'cut to the quick' that anyone would laugh at my traumatic day........... ROTFL..........ONLY JOKING!.........

    I will recommend my antics to anybody having a bad day.......it did me the world of good AND it got the housework done. (Well, some of it anyway).

    Sue: If your keeping an eye on us: I hope your well and I like your Christmas Group very much.

    XX





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    christine and everyone , i have been keeping an eye on you all !!!!!

    just got overtired with work and some internal politics there ......a couple of people were mischief making in a bitchy way and i was the recipient .......i am happy to report that they are well aware now that i am no push over as i went through a formal channel of talking to my manager and let her deal with them !!!!!


    on a personal front , my fella is doing really well , i am so proud of him and the progress he is making .
    my friend is no worse /no better .....she had her pain meds reviewed last week and is comfortable ..whatever that means !!!!

    suexxxxxxx
  • Hey, Sue, have been missing you! Good to see you posting again, and with better news too.....great about your man, well done to him, you too for supporting him while he worked towards recovery. I am impressed, I never thought you'd be a 'pushover' as you call it, but I am pleased that tensions at work will be eased even if your manager has to intervene to sort it all out, you could really do with an easier life!

    Christine, I really did have a grin at the described 'mess' and your reaction, I have been known to smash a pile of dishes on the kitchen floor in anger at the continual mess, it brought back that memory and that's the main reason that I grinned!( never liked the dishes anyway, and yes, had to clear it up myself, but SOOOO satisfying! What a lovely noise it made!)

    Dianne, Darren, Liz, and any others, hope that your day was ok and you have a good night now....

    Moomy

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    hi moomy

    i am a fairly placid , easy going person and treat people as i would like to be treated , however i really dislike injustice , as happened at work and yeah maybe i need to toughen up , but then i wouldnt be me !!!!

    christine , i had an episode last year when i went outside and smashed loads of old crockery against the garden wall , my neighbour thought i was nuts!!!!
    and i have also been known to put on me wellies and have a childish splash in puddles singing ' im singing in the rain '

    i am proud to be 'loopy' !!!!!

    suexxxxxxxxxxxxx

  • Join the club, Sue, I am loopy personified! I just can't wait till WE get snow, our lass has been playing out in it and I'm positively GREEN with jealousy!

    On the other subject, I too try to treat folk as I would like to be treated, and used to go the extra several miles if there was something needing doing for my patients, I'd be the one jumping through the hoops and pulling my colleagues through too. Ah well, retirement eases those stresses, and life is definitely nicer without that stress, but the odd challenge is welcome now and then!

    love and hugs and a peaceful night to you all.....

    Moomy

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    good morning to you all , a quick hello before i go to work , a cuppa in my hand to help me wake up !!!!!

    put my xmas tree up yesterday , so i feel a little motivated to get organised , im having a quite xmas this year as i will be on night duty xmas day .

    have a good day everyone
    suexxxxxxxxx