Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • But, Liz, its Thursday today! Your lovely new Physio must have turned your head completely! Glad he's nice and gentle too....

    Sue, so sorry about your back, know it well......but I hope you now don't do any of those bad lifts, the ones which were banned, like the chicken lift and the australian? Glad the TENS helps you, they are just so good!

    Christine, how interesting that you know the inventor of that.....hope you are doing ok today and are up and about even if not yet dressed!

    Dianne, hello, that was a busy evening, wasn't it, good to know we aren't yet banned, lol!

    love and hugs to you all......

    Moomy

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    hi everyone .

    my back is much better thank you and the tens machine worked a treat !!!

    moomy ....yes i remember the days of the 'australian lift and the 'bobath' method of moving someone ....all banned now thank goodness !!!
    i did my back in working with rehab patients for a while and was moving someone and they jerked back ...had to wear a collar for a few days and the rest is history .....my legacy is a back that flares up every now and then ....many years later !!!!


    well im 'back' at work tonight ...pardon the pun !!!

    so my choice in advance for tomorrow is a lovely piece of music that is gentle and soothes the soul :-

    DVORAK ' NEW WORLD SYMPHONY' or as many came to know it ...the 'hovis ' advert !!!!!

    suexxxxxxxxxxxxx

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    Hi everyone,hope your all having a good day.
    Im going to post my song for the 'Dance the C**p out of C' on the 'Dance Dance Dance' group site as my small brain cant cope with remembering to put in on here and on the 'Dance Dance Dance' site.

    Doc came to see me yesterday about my legs. Same old thing.......we'll have to arrange for some more blood test ect ect ect...waffle waffle waffle.

    Anyway, I was in the kitchen making a cup of coffee and thinking to myself, why did my legs improve and then start to get worse again....what have I been doing (or not doing) over the past few weeks which might have made the change. There infront of me was a bowl of tomatoes............and I thought Light Bulb......over the summer I was eating load and loads of tomatoes (at least 3 or four large ones each day) and over the last month, my free supply (home grown) as finished. SO, if the doctors cant help me, Im going to see it was the humble tomatoe that was making my legs feel better. Im going to get dressed now and try to get to the supermarket for a tomatoe feast.

    Actually,legs do feel a bit better today, although my ankles still hurt.

    It CarnivalCARNIVAL NIGHT tonight!!!!!. My sister-in-laws house is right on the carnival route, so usually we all go and watch it from outside her house....few drinks ect. I love carnival............there's nothing on earth as good as the Somerset Carnival........and no better place on earth to see it as from my home town (city actually, even though its small) . Its magic, wonder, huge floats, millions of lights and load music (very loud). To anyone who has never seen the Mid Somerset Carnival, I just could'nt find the words good enough to describe how wonderful it is. Makes the Rio Carnival look like a stroll in the park!!!!! No dancing for me this year, but hopefully I will have a chair, loads of good family and friends, and more than a few drinks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

    I'd better start getting myself into the carnival spirit right now.

    Cheers everyone.
    xxxxxx


  • I was late but thought of the dance, my music, the demons chorus from Elgar's the 'Dream of Gerontius'

    Christine, hope all is now easing after you've danced it away.....

    Moomy

  • What a great idea, Christine, was going to go to G&S but they aren't doing the show tonight, its a different rehearsal, so a hot chocolate , feet up and the TV sounds great!

    BTW, folks all, my dance was just amazing, quite demonic! ( just see what music I chose, hahaha!)

    Moomy

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    Hi Christine, sorry you cant get to the carnival hope you feel better soon,
    i will be doing the same as you watching children in need, so will be around
    if you want to chat.
    I posted my song for today on dance dance dance group, was going to post
    on here as well, but phone rang and i forgot, haha
    Love to all
    Dianne xxx
  • Christine, comfort yourself by thinking there are going to be huge crowds, noise, hustle and bustle, pick-pockets, trouble, and even the fairground type rides are over priced and dodgy!

    but I'm sorry you aren't going all the same! lol!

    Moomy

  • I'm waiting for the Newsreaders spot, they are always good.....

    Moomy

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    Hope you manage to get that wine open Christine,
    Helen i like the newsreaders as well xx
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    I would have forced that cork either in or out by now, you make take that
    sound like a piece of cheese haha, but i agree the song was quite good