Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
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    hi christine
    sounds like you had a lovely start to the day despite the weather .
    i didnt see much of it , working nights at the moment so i go to work in the dark and its not very bright when i go home either , so not much daylight for me at the moment .
    i love this time of year though , the nights are 'drawing' in , the leaves on the trees are all kinds of colours and the t.v. always has some good drama series in the autumn .
    im spending my evenings off , reading crime novels /or cross stitching .....and eating home made soups , and hot chocolate with marshmallows on the top ....nice and comforting .
    a jacuzzi bath sounds lovely , can feel myself chilling at the thought of it !!!!.


    love and hugs
    suexxxxxx
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    hi christine .

    yes i am definitely an autumn person , and it is reflected in the colours etc i wear /surround myself with .
    Just got home from work , a nice quiet night , so im looking forward to going to bed with my book and some hot milk and honey and then a nice restful sleep .
    have a good day
    suexxxxxxxxxx

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    i was talking to my manager yesterday and she has bought all her xmas presents !!!! aaaaaaaaaarrrrrggghhhh !!!!!

    i refuse to think of xmas until the end of november !!!!!!



    sorry , i do love xmas really , its just i swa my friest xmas advert 3 weeks ago , is it me or do does xmas now begin in september for the advertising world ....bonkers !!!!

    anyway , i love all the closeness you get at xmas , families and cards from people you havent seen for ages with news letters ...if only that 'closeness' could be all year .

    enough of the philosophising .......enjoy the evening
    suexxxxxxx

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    sorry about all the mistakes in spellings in my post above ...i just got up out of bed and i aint had my cuppa yet !!!!
    suexxxxxxxxx
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    a quick hello before i go to work . then im on annual leave ....yippee !!!!

    hi liz ....yes im much better , everything coming together as they say and i am so looking forward to a 'break' from work .

    got loads to do at home on my days off ....spring cleaning late !!!!!!

    but i will feel very virtuous when it is all done .

    just got over two viruses this month , people at work dropping like flies !!!
    everyone working overtime to cover each other , the clients got the bug too ...not nice !!!
    anyway , onward and upward as they say !!!

    catch you all tomorrow
    be good !!!!

    susie babes .......my nickname at work !!!!
    xxxxxxxxxxx

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    hi andrew, i think we are all get a strenght from some where that helps us hope with what we are going through which helps us to be stronger than our friends and family , and it makes me laugh that when ever some one asks if were ok we always say fine,ok, great etc even when we feel like shit ! in my own experience before i was told i head the big C, i was unsure how to talk to anyone whom had it, did they want to talk about it , or just carry on as normal,i was unsure how to act ! here i am myself now,(may be my punishment ) i find it good to talk to friends etc but know they feel like i used to, they not sure what to say, and once u start the conversation they know your ok talking about it, it is surprising where the conversation goes, to your treatment,friends and family that have experinced cancer etc etc and they find it easier to talk to you next time and are there surporting you. i wish now i had this strengh to talk to the people i knew that had cancer before,
    i wish you and everyone else, love and best wishes for this rollcoaster that we are on.
    good luck to you all
    iona
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    morning to all .....im going to have a lazy day today and just 'chill' , its pouring down with rain anyway , so reading , cross stitch , sudoku ....not all at once !!! are the plan for today .
    might even have an afternoon siesta .
    'spring 'cleaning can wait !!!!!
    suexxxxx
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    well i finally did it , downloaded my pic !!!!

    its not the best one in the world of me , i think i look tired and i usually wear my hair down ( its past my shoulders ) but my fella caught me at last and said im putting this on share for you , so i hope the realti of finally seeing me doesnt send you all into shock !!!!!

    liz , I had a lovely day thank you , very lazy , now i feel guilty !!!
    suexxxxxx

  • Glad to see you at last, Sue, you look just great! love and hugs to all, have been about a bit more today but am off to bed now, have been saying that for a bit, but mean it now!!!!

    Moomy