Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    hi Andyrh. I'm new to this site but have been looking through after imputting my profile etc and i read the subject of friends and family being enough very interesting. when i was first diagnosed with cancer i was scared for my family as well as me. I did'nt want them to go through hell watching me suffer, but hen again maybe i just did not want to die and be parted from them.
    Colleagues and friends i found had mixed reactions. Those i worked with either threw their arms around me and sobbed or stayed clear and maybe aloof because they just did not know what to say to me I am an only child and am at the age where a lot of my family inc parents had gone. I was also divorced but had two kids-well grown ups really- a son of 26 and a daughter of 23. Their family- mums side, helped me face things and helped the kids who went through many weeks and months of hell after i had an op and it went wrong and i developed complications which put me in ITU for 21 days and hospital for10 weeks-hardly coherrent cos of medication etc.
    It was only after i came out that i realised what the cancer had done to their lives-i had only been thinking of me in hospital i suppose-when would i get out etc. For my family-well they had their lives put on hold-coming in from work at 6pm and rushing to hospital to sit with me to 8 pm or longer-running the home, juggling their jobs in the process. My daughter almost had a breakdown.Their relationships suffered.
    In the end things came right, i am on the recovery road all be it a long one, but i have had depression which again they caught hthe brunt of. I am very proud of their connon sense, their devotion and love. Work colleagues gradually ,with the exception of a few loyal ones fell away form visiting hospital or asking about me which hurt to be honest.
    I have found that cancer can take a number of very different tolls on the mind-concern for your family, concern for yourself and that you may have to face what none of us wants to face, finding that true friends do exist and care, finding that at the end of the day some people cannot deal with a friend with cancer, and also finding that people like employers who set out so understanding and so full of concern can turn their backs when you are of no more use to them or can't cope the same when you return to work.
    I think that cancer is a very lonely disease to cope with in the end-nobody else can suffer the pain or ops or treatments for you, nobody can ever understand the worry that it may return at some point. I still awake with bad dreams at night about my hospitilisation etc. It has helped me to appreciate my close family though
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    Hi Christine,
    AM about if you need to chat xxxxxxx
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    Hi again Christine, dont worry, i got confused by Westies post also, so if you are
    still about perhaps you could fill in your profile then i'm sure there will be someone
    on here who can help you, so please do keep posting xx
    Christine, hope you manage to get some sleep, will 'see' you tomorrow for our
    dance in memory of dear Andrew xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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    Hi to you all, I hope that you don't mind me posting on here, I don't usually but always read and of course enjoy the music. I won't be around at 3 o'clock but wanted to sugest " thank you for the music" by Abba, partly fo Andrew as a thank you to him for starting this and I know everyone will miss him terribly. But partly because I think that probably mosy of us are helped in many ways by music we love whether we are happy or sad. Anyway I hope that you all have the best day possible.
    Luv and (((((((((((((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Anne xxx
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    Morning everyone,
    Its good to see so many of you here for Andrew, Donna is going to put
    Andrews post on about 2pm as a final reminder to everyone, hope you
    all have a good day xx
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    Hi LIz, i'm ok how are you? i have seen your messages, its a good idea
    its also good that you keep putting songs on now, it reminds me of when
    you and Andrew used to do that all day xx
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2IExa2A198

    Just for you Andy I wil dance away to this in the car before collecting the kids.lol

    XXX
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    Yep i will also be dancing around 3 maybe a little before - with any luck i will get lots up with me as well.

    My song will be sweet about me by gab something or the other

    Andrew you are missed but will never be forgotten.

    Much love to all

    Helen

    xx
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    Thanks everyone for all you are doing today re the dance. I was wondering if there is any way to try get this recognised on a wider scale, but don't really know how to start. What a great thing he started and what a lovely legacy if we could get some wider recognition. Does anyone have any ideas? carol x
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    I think its a great idea as well, i know Andrew did e-mail mac to see if they would
    post a thread every Friday morning informing everyone about the dance, but they
    said it couldnt be done, for some reason xx