Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    Sutent gives me a yellow coloured skin, a yellow coloured skin, a yellow coloured skin
    Sutent gives me a yellow coloured skin a yellow coloured skin a yellow coloured skin

    Sorry Sue. This is my take on your song and I will be singing it at 3 pm with the above words

    Have fun

    Bob Jk
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    Hi everyone,
    My song for today is You are not alone, by Michael Jackson, for Andrew, Daz,
    and my dear friend Liz, Love and hugs to you all
    Dianne xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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    hey bob !!!!

    whatever lights your candle !!!!!

    go for it !!!!

    suexxxxxxxxxxx

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    Thanks Sue

    Does anyone know how Andrew is doing and do we know where he is
  • Hello, all...I cycled the c**p out of cancer for all this afternoon, instead of dancing.....we went as it was so lovely and sunny, so I thought of you all as I wobbled my way round 8 or 9 miles, round a reservoir not too far from here......

    Andrew is still at the hospice, where he is having Physio in the hopes that he will be able to stand a bit, after the nerve block which was successful in reducing his pain. He plans to get home again as soon as his place has been adapted, he needs to have a wet room rather than his bathroom as it was before. He's had advice so it's a matter of getting his builders to do the work. I haven't heard from him for a couple of weeks, will be in touch soon again.

    Moomy

  • Update from Andrew, he is doing ok but will need a wheelchair now.....he is still waiting for quotes and start dates from the builders, we all know how quick they are...not! Then he is looking into what powered wheelchair ( checking them out this next week) and then what car so he can wheel straight into and drive, apparently they are few and far between, but he has seen one which will do, Chrysler Grand Voyager, as he now has mobility allowance organised to help. His care package is being sorted out, too, so hopefully things will progress and he can think about home before too much longer. He thanks everyone, and sends his love and is looking forward to getting this thread buzzing again!

    Moomy

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    hi helen , great news about andrew ......really looking forward to the day he returns here on his tag .

    please send him my love and tell him he has been missed so much

    suexxxxx

  • Will do, Sue, I did ask him about the Sutent, he's not sure if it applies to those already on it, so will find out soon I guess. He was anxious to know about my choir event, he'd been planning to try and get over to Manchester if there were still tickets and he was well enough, but is anxious anyway to try and get the CD when it comes out, bless him!

    Moomy

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    hi helen .
    p/m me and give me details of when your c.d. comes out also , not often i know someone famous !!!!

    i did go to to school with jennifer saunders , thats my only claim to fame !!!!!

    suexxxxxxxxx
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    Andyrh

    I have just read your postings. My husband had small bowel cancer and passed away on 7th May. It was only 6 weeks from diagnosis to his passing. During that time, we had "friends" that disappeared once they new what the problem was. Lots of friends seemed afraid of us and for some it seemed to us that they were avoiding seeing us. I think this is, for some, quite a "normal" thing to do as they feel at a loss of what to say to you and how to deal with any emotion that you might show. I am sure they do not mean any offence by their attitudes, it is the only way they know how to deal with it themselves. One set of our neighbours, once told that John's cancer was terminal, never contacted me for the whole six weeks, they kept right out of my way! I even had to put a note through their door a few days after John's death to tell them. I am sure that they must have known due to the activity once again at my home, but made no contact until my note. I then received a sympathy card from them saying they were there for me! I did not see them being there for me. Other friends though were brilliant. Some you do say that you are fine, even though you are not. Others you can be yourself and let it all out. I think if you know these friends well, you seem to know who can take it and who cant. I know I was not the one with cancer, I was the carer of someone with cancer, but I was treated just the same. Almost everyone is afraid of the "cancer" word, especially those fortunate enough never to be touched with it. I lost my dad 15 years ago, my mum last year and my husband this year all to cancer. I am sure you will not wear out your friends and I bet they all want to help you as much as they can they know you will have lots of different emotions and moods at this time. Let them know how you feel honestly, most will know that you are not always feeling great anyway.

    My thoughts are with you. Keep strong.