Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    Hi moomy,

    not seen it yet!!

    it was delivered this afternoon to Richards house so he is driving it for work and stuff - sod. But he is driving tonight and picking me up in about an house for a little jaunt arount the countryside before we meet friends for dinner. Its Zambezi Ailver I have been told with the extra big stormer alloy wheels and loads of toys to play with - heated/electric sets, satnav, command system, uprated stereo and extra shiny bits on the outside - I cannot wait to see it at last.

    I will be able to enjoy the difference - looking over the hedges on the lanes etc - will make a bit of a change from my low slung merc - but I still love my car and the roof doesn't come down on the landy does it!

    I feel a bit spoilt really with the choice of two great cars but if you can't indulge yourself in these circumstnaces then when can you - just hope I am not coming across as a bit of a jerk to poeple but I'm having fun for the first time in a while.

    How are you doing today?

    Andrew



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  • Andrew, am exhausted! We packed loads of tools and things for 3 days away into our shed on wheels and drove up to daughter's place to carry on working in her house while she is away working on Stornoway, she flies back sunday in time for her clinic on monday. I just wish the journey here wasn't so long, it's almost 150 miles! Cut the grass, and rebuilt a door ready to hang tomorrow when the glue has dried....it's all go!

    Enjoy your evening drive, sounds very luxurious! I assume you made sure you are insured too????!!!!

    Moomy

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    Yes I am insured but not allowed to drive as yet - I have to tell the DVLA on monday that my morphine is in balance and then I can get behind the wheel again, so just a passenger today but next week the world is my oyster. I have already added the car to my own insurance - maybe a little premature - so there are no excuses!!

    Yes 150 miles is a bit of a drag isn't it but then you get there and start working at things - ever sit still? - lol

    We are looking to take a bit of a driving holiday later in the year, get the ferry to Bilbao and have a drive around the atlantuc coast between Santander and Biarritz in the mercedes and enjoy some open top cruising by the sea.

    Not sure about the long ferry trip, bit boring, but we shall see, think it would be worthwhile just for the scenery down there. Never would have consdidered that sort of trip before, you know just normally fly, sunbathe, eat, drink and come home but now a yearning for a bit of adventure has some into my life - maybe the cancer is doing that or maybe just middle age (joke) but its inetresting to me that my tastes are changing in these regards.

    Andrew

  • Maybe your ideas have had a change round as a result of your illness, it happened to our girl a bit....

    Hope you enjoy the trips around in the new Rangy, sounds very snazzy! will have to look out for you if you come this side of the Pennines.....

    We don't get round to having much rest while here, there is still a lot to do.....!It's an old house, used to be a silk bobbin mill, she had a team of builders in as there was some structural work needed, even an open drain in one spot, the rest is up to us, also teaching her how to do stuff herself, she is excellent at tiling once she is started off, and decorating, too, as well as watching Dad and being a handy man's mate!

    Moomy

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    DIY and me are much strangers, I have had to do them in the past and decided that its best left to others. will have the idea and the money they can do the work and if I can't afford then it doesn't get done until I can.

    Thats why last time I moved it was into a new build flat with nthing needed except unpack the cases and boxes. Suits me now in these times but at first it did seem a bit antiseptic when I moved in. However 5 years later it does feel more like a home.

    Mankes cleaning and caring for the place easy and as i now need a cleaner to help out its alot easier all round. Although I do find myself tidying up before the cleaner gets here which is a bit pointless and I don't know why I do it. Silly really!

    Andrew
  • Uhoh, he's off again, too much sitting around is something my O/H is not good at.....must be off to help.....

    Moomy

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    Hey, have fun - off to get ready for the eveing out now so will catch up later - have a great weekend and I will be thinking of you hanging doors whilst I gad about a bit.

    All the best,

    Andrew

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    hi andyrh ....my last night tonight , then i get to be like a normal person and have 6 days off !!!!!!!!!!!!!yippee !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ' i feel good , na,na,na,na,na, na , na .........i knew that i would etc.........'
    you get the picture !!!!!?????????
    suexxxxxxxxx
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    So pleased to hear that RR has arrived and really hope you've had a good evening. Just sleeping today after hosp so reading all these messages of activties - door hangings and other DIY - has been tiring enough. Still some days are more like that, and hey I can justify logging on to this discussion as some sort of activity so I'm back off to bed again.

    Hope all have great weekend, R
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    V

    Starann,
    I know exactly what you mean - bring it on! Time to get down and boogie just take me to the bridge, take me to the bridge!!

    have a great time off and make the most of it.

    Best of everything

    Andrew

    Hi Rosy,

    take part vicariously, look at the rest working and beavering away then have a nap from the effort of it all - like your style, like your style - lol.

    Hope you too are really well and having a good one and get over the hosp visit. Bestest wishes to you and yours from me - lets all have a great weekend in what every way we want!!

    Andrew

    Well folks, I've been chauffeured about tonight in the RR, it was all I thought it would be. More toys than you can shake a stick at and so high above everyone. It was really strange watching our bonnet glide past the roof line of other cars. Its been so long since I hade the ML I had forgotten just how much I like that sensation of seeing everything coming towards you and under you etc. Brilliant, now just need to get the off road driving day sorted. looking at the one north of skipton at Coniston Cold. we passed it on the way to the lakes in Feb. and it looked good from the road so must be better actually there.

    Had a wonderful evening with our friends, the food was rubbish and the service was rank but the company so convivial that nothing else mattered. met some folks I haven't seen since before the diagnosis but ,my friend Angela (it was her birthday do tonight) had prepared them in some sort of way so no questions and no discussion, everything just normal as if I'd just been away for a few weeks. I loved it. Managed to stay going without sudden shut eyes until 11.30 or so then came home, couldn't really countenance going clubbing with the rest - lol.

    So a great start to this weekend, can it get any better than this?

    G'night everyone and see you all soon.

    Andrew