Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    Talk about reversal of fortune;

    Read above and you would think all was right with the world and so did I - then this morning happened!

    at about 4,30am I woke and went into the kitchen for a while, I thought what about a time to say a little prayer of thanks for yesterday and a small wish that this is the start of less pain and problems - for a short time at least.

    No such luck there then, I am not a particularly religious person but have a word now and then, never really asked for anything before so didn't think this was pushing my luck at all. No chance!

    Woke again at 7.30am needing bathroom and as I got out of bed I saw I had already needed it and my body had decided not to wait for my brain to wake up.

    I was never sure whether I would put this sort of detail on here, but I am, so look away if easily disturbed.

    I am not sure whether the abject misery that came over me then was due to the fact that here am I, a grown sentient man sitting in my own bodily waste or rather the fact that the pain I was in was so incredibly horrible that I couldn't move from this position. Still not sure. It took me 30 minutes to shift and then even more pain hit and I had to sit back down in it. I cried then for over an hour because there was nothing else I could do.

    Anyway, morphine and sundry other drugs later and the bedding is in the wash, I have had my coffee, I feel totally washed out and completely inhuman at this time, babies do this!, not me! This was supposed to be a good weekend! how many exclamation marks can I go through!

    Then I started to wonder, is this because I asked for a little something from god? Is this because he thought "that’s funny already - lets make it funnier" I didn't ask for a cure or a remission all I asked for was the same or less pain from now on, how f*****g much is that. I didn't think it was too outrageous, but obviously it was.

    Well I won't ask again, just take everything that comes my way and live with it. I'm not stupid, once bitten etc but just once I wanted a little something extra.

    Sorry about that everyone but I had to put it down to get rid of these feelings from my head, its over now and maybe the remainder of the weekend will be great, all I know is I fervently hope that this episode is not going to be the script for the rest of my life.

    Better start now making sure that it isn't - eh campers!

    Have a better day than I please everyone, will catch up later.

    Andrew

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    Christine,

    bless you and thanks I needed that. Don't shed anything for me anymore though as I have had enough of that today - lol

    Happy thoughts are needed - I am sending you happiness and nothing alse all day. I will keep on asking for little, simple things and see what comes my way. I really believe in the Karmic - what you put out you get back 10 fold - so I am doing just that.

    Please have a wonderful day and dry up those tears, lets face adversity with a smile - we can rise above and we both know we are the best.

    Much love and thanks for your heartfelt and kind words,

    Andrew

    xx

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    Thanks Andrew.
    Dont just ask for the little things, slip in there a few good whoppers!!!. You never know!!!.
    Luv
    Christine.
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    Dianne,

    Im not any braver than you or anyone else.

    Lets make a pact that we dont have to say sorry to each other!!!

    Luv.

    Christine.

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    D'you know what, whoppers - I'd have;

    peace, end of world hunger, sorted middle east, no more terrorism, everyone on the world realising we are all the same under the skin, my back ache gone and erradictaion of cancer for everyone immediately.

    Do you think we can have all that, and a laugh for you?

    I hope so.

    Andrew

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    I can go along with that one!!
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    I said the great one answers all prayers in the end. One down and 6 to go.

    Im laughing now - hope your back ache is number two to be answered..
    Thanks Andrew.

  • Oh, Andrew, from one extreme to the other, eh? Glad that the Rangy was all you anticipated, but what a rude awakening you had, that was rotten! Hope that all is improving now, (that was the curry which had you, came to bite you in the.....!) and you are on the up....love,

    Moomy

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    hi everyone,
    havent been about much, poor andrew hope you are feeling loads better than this morning, and your back ache has gone, hope all your prayers are answered
    christine, glad you are feeling bit more cheerefull than earlier, and i agree with you, no more saying sorry to each other, everyone else hope you are having a good day
    dianne xx
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    Hello to Dianne, Moomy and Christine,

    many thanks for your kind concerns, yes the old back is getting better as the day goes on, not so much pain as just heavy dragging now which is copable with.

    Yes the curry may have been partly responsible but then I was asking for relief - it just came on too quickly - lol. Good job it didn't happen in the car I would have been thrown out onto the road I suspect!

    just been out for lunch and had steak & kidney pie with chips and peas, something to fill up the gaps and not designed to "rush" through, so to speak. Also Deborah brought me some herb supplements she had used during her pregnancy to respond to trhe same issues so I will give it a couple of days and try them out. I think I will lay off the Movical/Senna mix for the time being - not sure its needed now!

    Going to have a quiet night in tonight and do as little as possible as I am due out again tomorrow for lunch and I have to pick up birthday presents in the city for a do next tuesday. It seems to be everyones birthday at the moment but luckily they have all selected their own presents and all I have to do is collect and pay for them, makes life much easier than having to do decisions! I never knew that charm bracelets were making such a comeback but it seems to be what they all must have. I did the cards through "Moonpig.com" and they have arrived today so at least it looks like I made some form of effort in the process.

    So there we go, another day in the life, started off really horribly, got a bit better and then platueaed out quite well, we will see what the evening and tomorrow have in store.

    How is everyone else and how have all your days gone?

    Andrew