Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • Liz, I sort of expected you wouldn't be able to have internet...and am so sorry, you will have access to be able to text, I hope? most hospitals now allow the mobile network to be used, unless on a high dependency ward where lots of machines might be affected.....at least you are ok for the surgery, will be thinking of you and hoping it all goes to plan....

    Moomy

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    hi all,
    liz, its a shame you cant have internet when you go into hospital,
    have to make sure you text to let us know how you are,
    helen, just read on your thread that you are in exchanging e-mails
    with professor's secretary, its good that you are in contact,
    love to you both xxxxxx
  • Dianne, thank you! There seem to be some trials open in Germany, and also they get great results in Hodgkin's which is why we want to go, whatever the cost!

    Love to all of you.....

    Moomy

  • Liz, it's hot here too, I guess it's more humid than hot, and we just had some rain.....read your post about not going to the wedding, well, if it has to get called off, better now than after the ceremony, really, poor folk though, that is very sad....

    Moomy

  • Oh, that is so sad, poor souls, they must really be going through agony at just paperwork being wrong!

    Moomy

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    hi folks .
    just a quick hello to you all .

    will miss you when you are in hospital liz , if you can text me , at least i can be in contact with you ..........i really do wish you well hun .

    helen , say hello to me mate andrew , miss his words of wisdom and music tastes .

    the weather here has drained me today , really humid , makes you feel like a limp lettuce , i was up for 6am to work a day shift , enjoyed it , but spent most of the time running after a client .....i aint a runner at the best of times !!!!!............then i had to get my car exhaust fixed , it sounded like a tank ..........the price made me wince to get it done , but its lovely and quiet now and doesnt offend the neighbours ( actually one neighbour thought i had changed my car to a sports model !!!)

    food shopping tomorrow and pay my bills , then im back on nights tomorrow night until mon morning .....will keep me out of mischief i suppose !!!

    im off to help make a meal now and then have my daily fix of big brother ( i know i am sad , but i love analysing how they all interact /change in an enclosed environment .....makes me feel normal !!!!)

    have a lovely evening everyone , a better day for me today ....hopefully it continues .
    suexxxxxxxxx
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    liz .

    i will be 'with you ' all the time you are in hospital and afterwards as always .

    just had a lovely phone call from mayte , she is a nutcase !!!!, in a nice way !!!!!.......for the first time for days i laughed ( she didnt give me much choice !!!) she is what i afffectionately call ' loop de loop '

    it boosted my spirits , as do you when we have talked .

    oh and i forgot about your pressie you sent me , so that is my treat tonight !!!!!!



    love ya muchly liz

    suexxxxxxxxxxxx

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    good morning everyone .

    its friday and its dance the **** out of cancer / dance andrew and daz better event @ 3pm .

    my choice for today is an apt one

    THE FEELING ' NEVER BE LONELY '



    much love to you all

    suexxxxxxxxx

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    Morning Liz and Sue,how are you both today?
    My song for today is The Miracle by Queen of course.
    See ya yogi
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    morning everyone,
    i know we have had this one before, but my song for today is
    aretha franklin, say a little prayer, for andrew, daz, and everyone
    else who needs it xxxxxxxxxxxx