Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
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    hi dianne , its worrying wondering about andrew and what is going on with him .....i hope and pray he is ok and doing well , i really do
    suexxxxxxxxxx
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    JULS Get on with that marking

    Lots of love

    your Mate Kate, the barmpot xxxxxxxxxxxx

    Hey to all others xxxxxxxxxx

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    i worry about him too, helen had no reply to her text, dont know
    what else we can do, just keep posting on his thread to keep it up
    top for when he comes home
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    hi liz,
    lets hope we get some news about andrew soon, how are you
    feeling today?
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    Hi Liz
    Richard was asking me to make a dessert my Oma used to make but I am not too sure of the recipe and the ones I have googled up just look wrong.
    Would you post another trad german recipe for me?
  • Hugs to all on here, and anyone else who could do with one......

    Moomy

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    zwetschgenknoedel


    but not a cheese based dough and I also don't think it was a yeast one either but might be wrong there. I have tried a couple of recipes but ended up with hard fruit and soggy dough.

    Hers were a dream served with plum / pflaummen compot as well, I think she used to sneak in a little pflaummen schnapps as well!

    Sorry I didn't answer before but I was at work.



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    Thank you for that will have a go at the weekend, I just hope this time they don't end up in the soggy mess they did last time, the whole lot went in the bin!! lol

    Liz do you read the recipes in German and then translate? if so then don't worry about going to the extra trouble as I also read it.

    For lunch as it is so warm, I am making Rote Gruetze - a real 'Hamburg' dish!

    One thing my mother loved passionately was the Matjes season - I never really liked them but as often as she could get hold of them we had Matjes - yuk!
  • Hello, all, have just had a chat with Andrew, he had quite a tale to tell....had dropped his mobile so it hasn't been working that well, but he texted me this morning and agreed that I could ring, as there was a lot to tell.....the trouble he had when getting up last Tuesday was because his spine had fractured, due to the cancer....he went into hospital and they have done a fixation of a titanium cage internally, so that his spine is now held and should hopefully not give him any further trauma. So now he has to learn everything all over again, his bodily functions, too. He began Physio yesterday, and successfully sat on the edge of the bed.... had been given the choice of possible bed-bound or wheelchair before the surgery so obviously had chosen wheelchair! He is hoping soon to get back to the oncology unit so he can re-start his Sutent but wants to see if he can actually get onto his feet again. He will give me up-dates as and when, and wants me on his behalf to thank everyone for their good wishes, and said, keep it going, folks!

    Moomy

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    helen, im so glad you finally heard from andrew, it was good that you
    could talk to him, poor thing hes certainly having a rough time, glad
    you gave him our good wishes, hope your rehearsal goes well,
    liz, dont know if you are back yet, but hope you enjoyed your breakfast,
    and hope the scan went well