Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • He is soloist at 'Last night of Proms' again this year, we saw the Proms programme....he was so funny the first time, coming in in a rugby shirt and singing every other verse in Welsh! Have met him briefly and he has just such a great personality....

    Moomy

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    I will be watching then to update myself - I know it takes years for a persons "quality" of their own to come out in their voice so I am probably doing him a disservice by not trying again. You can train and train and achieve perfection but then its the imperfections that make someone great - I think anyway - you need that human touch to achieve the all round feel.

    I am inetersted to see how kathryn jenkins matures because her voice at the moment does impress me with something - maybe just the volume she gets with it (only joking) - but would be loveley to see how it matures over then next 10 years or so. A female Brit singer - that would be good to hear.

    Andrew
  • Yes, I agree, but then she's Welsh too....they must have something we English haven't!

    Bryn has a huge stage personality, you feel it even before he comes on....daughter was playing in the orchestra, and he was the soloist then, in Cardiff, and even though he only did a few numbers you didn't need to check the programme for his next entry, it was palpable! amazing!

    Moomy

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    Its a strange thing how some people develope that presence. I remember watching one of those Live Aid things and these great big pop and rock stars with ego's on tow were being interviewed and one of them was talking about meeting her heroes (we must all have them no matter how famous we are) and she was with Stevie Wonder when Al Green walked in - she said everyone, even Stev ie, just turned and were ina bit of awe that Al Green was there in the flesh amonsg them - it surpised me although I am not sure why it should we are all human after all!!

    Just looked on HMV werbsite and they don't list the soundtrack for the Shawshank file so I can't see online if the track is there (sods!!)

    I will look when in town anyway.

    Andrew

  • I just checked our film, music isn't listed, so unless I go through the video, we haven't got it on DVD, I can't help any further, sorry....but if you go in HMV or even better, a more specialist shop, and ask, bet they should be able to tell you, if you get anyone senior, that is....

    Moomy

  • Andrew, I've just 'googled' and it is indeed the 'Sull' aria from Marriage of Figaro....amazing what you can do on these machines!

    Moomy

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    Moomy,

    thanks you very much for that - I can go and get it this weekend now without having to worry about walking all over Leeds city centre - much appreciated and many thanks, bless you.

    I knwo you said earlier - are you off tomorrom morning or today to your daughters?

    Andrew





  • It's tomorrow, just hope not too early, we try and time things so we don't get stuck in rush hour traffic...enjoy your day finding the music, it might be on a compilation or you might need to get the opera, haha!

    Moomy

  • ps, you could probably get just that track if you get into 'itunes'...not sure if you're into that?

    Moomy

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    I am on napster - so will have a look there and see if its in - it should be I think - and download it from them,

    thanks x