Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • Sounds a good day for you, I've a rehearsal this lunchtime with the Open University choir, then we're going to be packing to go up to daughter's, even though she won't be there, we have still got loads to do....we plan to get going fairly early tomorrow.

    Enjoy your day, sorry you might not get that ride Friday, but it will be great whenever....

    Moomy

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    Moomy,

    as i said yesterday, the reheasal will be brillian and you will be great, best.... of up at your daughters, hope the early start is not too early and have a great weekend. I suspect you will be most busy for the whole of the weekend and won't have time to get on here at all so we will catch up on monday!! and I will regail with stories of RR driving and mysty eyed old blokes wanting jusy one more go!!

    Have a good one,

    Andrew

  • I expect, too, that we will be so busy I won't get on here much, might not even take it....we will probably be kidnapped by some friends who live fairly near and taken out for a meal, too...my desperate audition is on Saturday, to join the Halle choir, in the Bridgewater Hall, am looking forward with dread as well as a tiny bit of excitement....it is for a big concert in July followed by a recording on their own label...I won't get in but will try anyway...

    Moomy

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    The dread will make you coinventrate and be better and the excitement will add the joy to our voice that will get you into the choir, simple when you analyse it!!

    WHEN you get in then how about Christine, Dianne and I come to the concert and see you live - or would that make you mess u[p on purpose - lol

    Andrew

    I'd get young Richard to drive us all in the RR - lol
  • hahaha, you'd never see me, it's going to be a huge choir!

    Moomy

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    I know it is but we can bring our opera glasses and look for the woman singing her ass off!!
    Andrew
  • hahahaha! they will ALL be doing that, hahaha!

    Moomy

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    would it be too rude to take a fold out banner "Hello Gang - I am Here"

    get you on the telly too "Mad woman disturbs Halle concert - shock"

    Andrew

  • It isn't being televised, worse luck, my hero, Bryn Terfel is the Bass soloist, but I will definitely buy the recording even without me on it!

    Moomy

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    I kind of like his voice but really haven't heard enough to be sure - just remember when he "stepped" in at the last moment and made his name!!

    Should really give him a further try he must have moved on since then - lol.

    When I go down to town for the Mozert/Rossini bits I will get a CD of his and see - always like to be educated if I can!!

    Andrew