Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    hi everyone,
    liz, we do seem to keep missing each other, think its probably
    because lap top is still not working so i have to keep coming
    and sitting at main computer every time i post, then i go off and
    do something and when i come back you have all gone, how
    are you feeling now?
    andrew, sorry you are having a bad day, i am thinking about
    you, sending a big ((((((hug))))))
    helen, juls, and anyone else who is about, hope you have all
    had a good day
  • Liz, I was quoting from that, you found me a video of it, well done you!

    Andrew, am so very sorry your pain is that bad, you need to tell your Physio when you next go, in fact it might just be worth ringing to say, then you will have a different treatment next time, they are always adaptable and have contingency plans.....I do hope you are going to be well enough to enjoy this evening with your sis, you have been looking forward to it.....a warm but not too hard ((((((((((((((hug)))))))))))))))to help.....

    Dianne, I know the feeling, I've been out and about, and missed stuff.......but the washing is drying so well, have yet another load spinning now!

    Juls, have p/md, thanks for letting me know......

    Moomy

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    Hi ladies,

    i have spoken with pain doc and doubled the diazepam and it seems to be working for the moment, pain is receding and i can at least think.

    I was in a black place this morning and this song kep comming into my mind so i hope you don't mind having a listen to it and see where my mind was at -

    many people think of this singer for one just one happy song (what a difference a day makes - Esther Phillips) but she is so much more that that and this is one of her darkest songs and was written by Gil Scott-Heron who also lacks the attention he deserves. anyway it kind of shows where i was but iam not now. i am however off to lay down again now so listen if you want to and then try her other songs, there is a big collection of them on youtube.

    cheers all and have a good day, mine isgetting better - lol

    Andrew xx

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvdnMzQGbEQ&feature=related
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    andrew, so glad you are starting to feel better,
    helen like you say i sit down to post, nobody replies, so i
    get up to sort washing or something, pop back in and you
    are all on next page lol, was getting paranoid ha! ha!,
    have to get lap top fixed so i can take it with me
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    Hi and me too!!
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    hello, me too ha! ha!
  • Andrew, glad things are looking up, now just be careful with those meds......! But do tell the Physio.....

    This site is certainly on go slow this afternoon!

    Moomy

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    Yesremember that one, wasn't there some sort of issue with that song first time around
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    well we all seem to be here now!!!! do remember that one liz,
    happy memories, carefree days ahhhh!
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    Andy,

    Glad you are feeling better. I have to say though thank you so much, I will have to go and buy her CD what a voice!! Just so sorry you were feeling crapsville, wicked tune, but yeah, you were in a dark place listening to those words.

    Well next time, don't hide away there are lots of flash lights here to shine your way. Love Bern xx