Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
    FormerMember
    Liz,

    we'll do some music after torture tomorrow then if we are both here at the same time.

    Andrew
    xx
  • So sorry, there is no fast way to building the body beautiful, lol! That's why athletes train for years!!!!! Music is good, though, Liz, dance while you work, you'll forget the pain then!

    Moomy

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    Liz and Helen,

    i'm afraid i am off to bed too, my poor old bod is killing me tonight and i cannot get in a comfortble position anywhere at all so i feel laying down in bed is probably the best bet for me too at the moment.

    Sorry and all that but i really just can't stand the pain at the moment from my lower back and leg.

    So i will say goodnight and sign off.

    I am sure i will be back on form in the morning again, see you all later!

    andrew
    xx
  • Sleep well, and hope the pain goes.....

    Moomy

  • FormerMember
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    cheers Helen - see you tomorrow

    Liz - have a good one

    anyone else about - they both go for you too.

    Love

    Andrew
    xx
  • night night! love.....

    Moomy

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    here a song for all of you , dont know the title , but i know it has a line in it which says 'thank you being my friend '

    dedicate that to all of you !!!!

    much love and hugs

    suexxxxxxxxxxxx

  • On behalf of all, as i think they have gone off to the land of nod, thank you, Sue, hope you have a better night than your day!, sounds as though it was a bit rough?

    Moomy

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    thank you helen ..........i will keep in touch with everyone .........its just very hard here at the moment , my fella is quite ill and its taking its toll on me .i have lost my sparkle and joie de vivre .

    i know he will get better , but its this time now thats hard .



    andrew thank you for your p/m , you really helped me so much

    big hug for you

    suexxxxxxxx

  • Sue, so sorry you are having a hard time, it hurts, doesn't it? When we love a fella, it's unconditional, but it still hurts when they are ill......

    Moomy